This idea involves two things to be implemented
1.) A Gladiator fighting arena in Gurubashi Arena
2.) The ability for observers in the arena stands to bet gold on the outcome
So…
I think it would be cool if at any point players could enter the Gurubashi Arena stands and become neutral to players, unflagged for PvP. then depending on how many people are actively in the stands the game chooses someone randomly to battle in the arena below in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, or 5v5. If there’s less players it leans 1v1, if there’s lots it does 5v5. After each match the process is repeated all day, everyday.
before each fight there is a window of time where the players observing the coming fight can bet some of their gold on who they think will win the match.
the gold sink part is that 10%(could be 5%) of the gold is just deleted from the pool and the remaining 90%(or 95%) is paid out to the winners depending on how much they bet and who won the match.
in that window before the match you could have an interface where players could see each combatants class, gear, spec, win/loss ratio in order to make an informed decision.
not only would this be a fun event for both the gladiators and the observers but this would be a good gold sink with little downside as its only deleting gold from the system and exchanging the rest between the players.
you wouldnt have to gamble but the most hardcore players with the most gold likely would enjoy it while at the same time keeping the gold inflation down for the entire community. even a casual player might enjoy betting 50 silver to see what happens.
this is the classic arena system we need
Edit: concerns about gambling addicts.
-put in a stacking debuff each time you lose you get a stack. 5 stacks that day and you can no longer bet
-cap the bet amount at 1g, 5g, whatever some cap
-hide the amount of gold in the pot to reduce the possibility of match throwing
-displaying someones win/loss ratio would also reduce match throwing
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No. Gambling addicts are real, and need real-world help.
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you could argue the game already is a big gambling system with loot. put in a stacking debuff where each time you lose you gain a stack that day. 5 stacks and you cant do anymore
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Not even remotely. Loot is RNG, but you aren’t risking anything.
100% this. This change would only make RMT worse. I would also add that by implementing gambling based on PvP, you open it up to manipulation. Today’s community is already pretty toxic, if you think match rigging wouldn’t become a very prominent part of this system you are being extremely naïve.
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you lose your time
if its popular enough then the random selecting of combatants would dampen this as an issue. as well as seeing the players stats of win/loss ratio before match
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You aren’t gambling your time. You are spending time to play a game and are rewarded with enjoyment. They aren’t the same and no amount of verbal jujitsu will change that.
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You are spending gold to observe a match and are rewarded with enjoyment
you could cap the amount if you want.
ever played poker for just $5 instead of a ton? that little bit of money makes the stakes matter
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verbal jujitsu. It’s gambling.
For many people that is fine, but as was stated earlier, addiction is a real thing. There are people out there that would spend more money than they can afford buying gold to keep chasing the dopamine high.
At the end of the day none of this even matters. There are countries with laws against this kind of thing in online video games. So it will never happen.
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should blizzard ban players who currently do death rolling? addiction is a real thing
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I am all for an in-game mini game with some sort of stakes. A WoW version of Poker or Liar’s Dice.
Verbal jujitsu. Give it up. I’ve already told you why it will never happen. Accept it and move on. Blizzard is not going to introduce region specific content.
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i like how you established in the beginning that everything i say is verbal jujitsu so you can just write it off with no need for a response. great talk
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You’ve already given more than enough reasons why Blizzard will never have gambling like that in the game. Ignore the poster and move on… despite being correct, you will never convince them that you are.
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I am still responding to you, simply pointing out when you are trying to spin words.
We’ve established that gambling is a dangerous addiction and illegal in games in certain regions. You are trying to spin it around and make it sound like gambling isn’t gambling.
It’s gambling, it won’t happen. Move on.
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There are a ton of games with gambling in it.
Maybe if people could gamble for gold in WoW, they would start banning gold buyers to save people IRL?
as an artist, the toughest thing about having a vision of something, is explaining to those who lack vision how said vision could work with the right implementation. no solutions, just flat no with no wiggle room
there are solutions to combat degeneracy as ive suggested. open your mind
Care to name one? Because all the regulations im aware of focus specifically on anything that involves real $ transactions of some kind. Since blizzard neither sells gold for money, nor allows gold to be cashed out for money, it would not violate any regional laws.
Keep in mind that lots of games have in game gambling mechanics, red dead redemption 2 online for example has a poker minigame you can play (which usually just has people mindlessly going all in for the max bid before any cards are revealed every time, which is just annoying af)
This wouldn’t be allowed in many markets due to censorship laws.
im not talking random observers not in game. only the people in game who are in the gurubashi arena stands are the observers im talking about. no different than people watching a duel outside town.
Yeah I get what you mean. But countries like my country the nanny state of Australia would chuck a huge hissy fit and say the game contains gambling themes. It would at the very least change the rating of the game and groups of sooks will advocate for it to be banned.
I’m not saying it wouldn’t be doable, but it would definitely open a huge can of worms.
Someone mentioned above red dead having gambling, these same groups advocate for red dead and gta etc to be banned for violence and gambling etc.
But nothing stopping you from starting your own gambling ring.