Items don’t have a set worth in an auction. They are worth whatever bidders are willing to bid. A bid is a bid, whether you meant to bid that much or not. Accidents have consequences, whether in game or real life.
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What I’ve been doing is (as much as feasible) bidding around 75-80% of the typical going price for an item - especially bags. That way it increases the cost to cancel and if they decide not to, I still get a good deal on an item with some profit potential if I don’t actually need it.
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“But, but that requires effort and personal responsibility on my part!”
Hence the reason this thread exists in the first place.
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Blizzard disagrees, and that’s all that matters.
Not really.
except video game does not = real life.
My discussion was relating to his comment of “owning up to your mistake”.
I’m not at all saying a seller needs to worry about someone’s mental capability at all.
Of course it shows malice. If someone has no intention of accepting a low bid but lists that low bid anyway, there’s another reason for doing it. Everyone knows what that reason is. People can dance around it and try to dress it up and look like something it isn’t, but everyone knows.
And so I’m done with this conversation. The only reason anyone is making excuses is so they can puff up their internet ego by sticking out their tongue, “haha I always pay attention.”
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It literally cannot show malice without chat logs or some other information since you can cancel a bid at any time, for any reason, with the only penalty being the lost deposit. Because they aren’t doing anything wrong, they can’t have malice by definition.
“I can’t prove it so I’ll just appeal to some vague sense of common knowledge that just so happens to confirm all my priors!!!”
The closest real world analogy I can think of is intentionally misleading advertising. It’s like a sign saying “Imbued nether weave bag for only 19 silver!*” in really big bold font with the tiniest type ever at the bottom saying “*if nobody else bids on it or the seller changes their mind. 990 gold to buy it now.”
It’s crap and it’s shameful that Blizzard’s design not only supports but almost encourages this crap. But it’s practically a non-issue for me because I have addons that let me filter the search results in a more sensible fashion and I’m not foolish enough to ignore the “Are you really sure you want to spend that much on a measly bag?” Warning dialog.
More accurately:
“Imbued Netherweave Bag for as little as 19s!!*”
*While supplies last, supplier reserves the right to discontinue offer at any time, guaranteed pricing available upon request
If someone saw the above ad, drove to the store, and was told the offer was rescinded, then that is that. However, if the ad was only intended to entice people into coming into the store to buy other things, that is deceptive trade and in most jurisdictions would get you slapped for violating state statute.
Unlike such a real world example, you’re already at the marketplace (the AH) and you’re seeing items appear and disappear without any promise or further information. You have no way to compel sellers to put particular items up at particular times or for particular prices, and you don’t get any kind of “I saw it first” priority if you were just too slow to click on something and buy it. Items appear and some can be bought out, some can not, and the price difference between bid and buyout are entirely customizable with the only restriction being that bid must be less than or equal to buyout.
The AH makes no promises.
The AH offers no promotions.
The AH has no warranties.
What is reasonable within an industry/market is going to be what is reasonable for an average savvy consumer within that industry/market. The AH goes mostly well understood and well used by the majority of the player base being careful with their purchases and paying attention to warnings. Thus as crappy as it is that people make mistakes, it swings both ways (people can accidentally list things too low, get sniped, and have zero recourse).
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