Collection of Dracthyr Evoker Player Feedback

Those are her words.

She doesnt even know if her following statement is true. All she does know is that they use barbershop options.

You are shifting the goal post my friend. At first you were saying that she was saying something different entirely and now you’re merely choosing which information to deem as concrete over the rest. Just because she said ‘I think’ doesn’t now mean said information is invalid. It just means either that she couldn’t remember off the top of her head 110% in the moment or because they aren’t sure what they’ll make visible in dracthyr form by the time dragonflight releases. But, as of right now, her ‘thinking’ is the most concrete and official information we have to go off so for now, the official status on this issue is ‘‘you can transmog belt, tabard & shoulders in dracthyr form’’.

Im not shifting anything. The quote clearly says that the tabard, shoulders and belt are barbershop customizations. Thats all they have and their equipped gear doesnt show.

It goes on to say they are toying around with the possibility that your equipped tabard, shoulder and belt MAY be visible at a future date, but that is not currently the case and may not happen at all.

Thats exactly what it says.

She literally does not specify what barbershop options at all. My best guess is the helmet looking things we’ve seen on some pictures and maybe bracelet style things later on…who knows.

Again you have assumed all this. This is not what she says at all. She says that, as far as she is aware in that current moment when she was asked the question, that the current status on dracthyr is that they will have barbershop customisation options and that dracthyr form and visage form will share belt, tabard & shoulder appearances. I’m not going to derail the thread any further arguing this with you because frankly it’s silly. It’s obvious what the quote says, you’re either just being purposefully difficult out of stubbornness or boredom. I’ve explained the language she uses and what it connotes. There’s nothing more I can say.

I havent assumed anything. Language has meaning.

If you think that the lead environment artist for WoW doesnt have a clue if drakthyr show armor or not, your nuts. If they could show armor she would have seen it first hand repeatedly and wouldnt resort to “i think”

If you think entire departments of a development team for a video game that is the most profitable product of a multi-billion dollar company is a monolithic entity, you’re nuts. If you think that even the lead of a particular area knows exactly what will and won’t make it to players, especially on something that is as minor as this, during the pre-alpha stages of development then you’re nuts. There are many times where even the likes of Ion have resorted to ‘‘we think’’ or ‘‘I think’’ because game dev is never certain. If she’s willing to say ‘I think’ about something that players care about in an interview which will be seen by thousands then I think that means that she’s confident that they, at the present time, intend on delivering what she said. Please stop being childish about this and let us move on. You’re correct, language does have meaning, and you’re choosing to ignore it. Particularly the part where she said ‘also’ to clearly distinguish the 2 seperate things she was talking about.

I just hope they don’t make the rotation needlessly complex.

And I want a range class for dh and a healer class for dk will it happen jo blizzard said they where doing this because on range class has been added since wow came out your nit going to get a tank class out of it for this expc let us have our day in the light

I don’t think it can get any more simple than DH so, considering that was the latest edition to the class roster, I wouldn’t be too worried.

flimsy idea based on no real precedent other than the fact that illidan had a ranged phase in his fight which havoc can already emulate

literally the opposite of what a DK does but ok

what is it with tribal andys and their insistence on the ‘us vs them’ narrative. Evoker having a tank spec doesn’t ruin your ranged dps in anyway. It doesn’t ruin your healing in any way. It just rounds off the class with a well rounded tool kit for all types of players, satisfying all desired fantasies (aka the fantasy of each dragonflight) and ensures dracthyr race has access too all rolls and gets flavour of the month players to not only heal but to tank as well. There are literally no downsides for anyone but Blizzard here because it means they have to do more work.

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I do find it weird they didn’t give them a tanking spec. But then I’m of the opinion all classes that don’t currently have either a tank or healing spec should have one added.

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There are no evoker players currently and won’t be for a while, I’m amazed we’re already at dissertation levels of feedback

tbf only one of the points is actually about the Evoker. Most of the problems lie with the race based on how they look

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You know they could have a tank spec in melee ranged without the class actually being melee. Just make it 100 percent magic focused. Im assuming they have an auto attack.

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100% agree. Alternatively, they could add melee abilities for the tank spec that the ranged dps spec and healer spec get to keep a portion of (bit like how you have some survival abilities as a marksman or beast master)

Honestly, my biggest concern right now is that Blizzard will see all the posts asking to change this or that, and in typical Blizzard fashion will do so rather than make these things options. Give them options to wear more armour, give them options to have more body types, give them options to use Visage more. That’s all fine. I’m just worried that in the end those of us who loved the race as presented and really, really want to play a lean and slender dragon person who doesn’t have to show any armour or use Visage more that we have to are gonna be thrown aside and not going to be able to play the race we immediately loved. :frowning:

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tbf other people and myself framed the bulky body thing as an option not as a replacement. I think you have like 3 camps. Those who want dracthyr to be replaced completely by something new (which in the case of an actual dragon form I’d be in favour of), those who want current dracthyr to be improved and those who just want different versions of dracthyr.

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Chrissake, let them tell their damn story. If you hate the new race, don’t play it. Or unsub and go be a bunny girl in that other game people gush about.

The entitlement in the community is amazing.

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The model looking bad to a lot of people = Blizzard’s story? No tank spec = story? No gnome form (for example) = story?

hmmm… ok

If anything these fan-requested changes would move the Dracthyr away from that ‘bunny girl’ vibe not towards it. Right now they look like a scalie’s deviant art work.

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The thing is, if you can’t identify with it, don’t play it.

You must realise this IS what people will do and then it’s a waste of development time which would have been better spent elsewhere. Thing is, this isn’t like pandas or monks where the complainers were fundamentally turned off by the aesthetic. There’s a LOT of us who WANT to play a dragon but the dracthyr just ain’t there yet for US. So we, as also paying consumers, are requesting changes/additions. If that offends you then I suggest you adjust your gaze to the next post.

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