Cold Steel, Hot Blood Shadowlands

I really Hope blizzard makes CSHB either into a talent or make it base line on bloodthirst. I think the warrior community needs to be pushing blizzard hard to make this happen.

What do y’all think?

I think this belongs in the warrior forums, not here.

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Why though ? What does CSHB even do that’s so “fun” ? It’s literally just passive damage that happens when you do your rotation the same way you did prior to having any CSHB traits.

Wrong, if you don’t have CSHB then your Bloodthirst just does crap damage. CSHB is what had made Fury warrior good. It’s always top 3 dmg dealer

Seethe is their replacement for it.

It injects value for crit into fury (without it and DR I’m pretty sure fury gets 0 interaction with crit)

So if you want an extra effect on BT crits, the talent is there fwiw

23 days later and you failed to read my post.

CSHB is just passive damage. It doesn’t have an actual gameplay element to it. That was what I said. If you want more damage, just ask for more damage, you don’t need CSHB.

CSHB brought crit from a dead stat to pretty much the best for fury. It was a lot more than damage. It changed how we itemized overnight.

But it doesn’t affect the rotation at all. I don’t see how changing what gear sims best brings added gameplay.

Well it did tho. It affected the rotation immediately.

Before CSHB you would RB at 2 stacks while enraged.

After CSHB you would never do that. It pretty much made anything that affected raging blow awful as well.

You would still prioritize Bloodthirst and would Rampage before capping rage. It really didn’t impact the major parts of the rotation, everything was still about Bloodthirst → Rampage.

You’re really stretching the impact on gameplay of CSHB. It was a fine trait, made crit important (and crit Fury is fun for those big numbers!) but it wasn’t really gameplay impacting.

It did push RB down tho. That’s a fact. And while enraged we prioritized 2RB over BT, assuming no cap obviously.

It changed our rotation as soon as we equipped it. Hell, if you want to be super min max, in sustained aoe you start cutting out RB because spending a global on that eats into your meat cleaver charges meaning you need to WW again, pushing back your CSHB BT.

CSHB made fury in BFA. Period.

It didn’t just make crit important. Crit was DEAD in uldir. D E A D DEAD. The geniuses at blizzard managed to ship a spec with 0 crit interaction (and not much other interaction) and after CSHB you had to change everything.