Code.org vs Make-A-Wish Foundation?

I am a woman and I think Blizzard chose a great charity this year. Code dot org does excellent work and I was happy to buy Whomper. It would be awesome if women and minorities were given equal opportunity and things like gender, age and racial discrimination didn’t exist but they do. To say otherwise is just downright misinformed and insulting to women and minorities who are just as capable as their male counterparts but remain underrepresented in STEM fields and management due to continued bias

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If you are “just as capable”, you would not need a special treatment

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Nobody is talking about special treatment, this charity tries to level the playing field a bit for people that are normally left behind by the current education system.
Did you know schools in the USA are funded based on local taxes? This means that schools in low income areas are under funded.
Also, gender discrimination is very common in the USA, girls are expected to do girl things, and computers are largely seen as a boy thing by society.

Trying to treat everyone a bit more equally is not special treatment. If you think it is, that’s a you problem.

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That’s very poor logic. I’m not thinking of public education I’m thinking of assistance for a specific type of education. One that targets me, by the way. Charities are allowed to have specific interests same as I’m allowed to disagree with them. The state of public education is bad for everyone.

That’s not even remotely related. This is a charity organization that’s used to target millions of people and are choosing to focus more heavily on one group over others. You are a single person who ran into a couple cats in trouble and saved all of the ones that were there. Apples and cement blocks.

I do admit it’s rather sad people can’t be nice nowadays without someone screeching ( not you maryine ) about social justice warriors or virtue signaling.

This is a multi billion dollar company. They should be throwing money directly at a cause that aims to increase womens participation in the field of computer science, given that ultimately their business ( and similarly many more wealthy computer science business’s) will benefit, and not asking their player base to do it on their behalf. Shameless.

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If you google "gender gap in education ", you will see that boys have lower graduation rates than girls, fewer boys are going to college 40/60, and even fewer graduate from college. Do you want to discuss the inequality within the American educational system? I am ready to do that, and I can compare it with other educational systems around the world. Girls are not banned from the computer classes, they have absolutely the same opportunities as boys. This country will stay racist and sexist until people will not think that success depends on gender, skin color, and the percentage of your ethnic group within the general population (who are “under represented minorities”?)[quote=“Mokrawr-area-52, post:66, topic:28580”]
Nobody is talking about special treatment, this charity tries to level the playing field a bit for people that are normally left behind by the current education system.
Did you know schools in the USA are funded based on local taxes? This means that schools in low income areas are under funded.
Also, gender discrimination is very common in the USA, girls are expected to do girl things, and computers are largely seen as a boy thing by society.

Trying to treat everyone a bit more equally is not special treatment. If you think it is, that’s a you problem.
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If you google "gender gap in education ", you will see that boys have lower graduation rates than girls, fewer boys are going to college 40/60, and even fewer graduate from college. Do you want to discuss the inequality within the American educational system? I am ready to do that, and I can compare it with other educational systems around the world. Girls are not banned from the computer classes, they have absolutely the same opportunities as boys. This country will stay racist and sexist until people will not think that success depends on gender, skin color, and the percentage of your ethnic group within the general population (who are “under represented minorities”?)

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I gotta agree with you on this,sometimes a good intention is just a good intention,this knee jerk reaction from the anti-SJW camps is kinda getting old. They realize not everything is an ulterior motive or a conspiracy by someone out to get them SMH. If anything the charity seems pretty equal opportunity as it not only helps women and minorities,but marginalized groups as a whole [which includes people who are poor [thus including guys] When I looked it up,code org seems to also want to encourage literacy amongst marginalized groups who don’t have the luxury or means to access books,encouraging people into educational approaches including and ESPECIALLY reading. -.- Also OP, it’s not Sunday yet if you’re gonna troll,at least do it on the normal day in question.

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Racism and sexism did not disappear in the world. There are plenty of girls and minorities who ate talented but do not get the support they require. Be it that they don’t see representatives of themselves or people assigning them roles early, there is a legitimate reason why those groups are lacking in the STEM field.

I personally saw this. I have a bachelor’s in Computer Science. I started my freshman year with all sorts of people in beginning classes for a CS major. By the time I graduated, I was one of two women who finished the degree. Why? I can’t explain it. It is a question worth investigating and solving.

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You believe that programming heavily depends on the gender of the programmer??? :smiley: Amazing! Twenty first century! Mind blowing!

Well I worked at a coding place that did statistical software for the ABS in the early 2000’s and I don’t think there was a single woman coder, quite a few in customer management and sales though.

Has it changed since then? If not why not? If so why do you think it has?

Of course it isnt idiot. However, women are undereprested in the field, there participation in the field of computer science is minimal compared to men.

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So, you believe in “equality”, right? But to be equal girls need special motivation and special treatment. Ok, that means we should have kick out extra 10% of the girls from the colleges (remember 40/60 ratio?) and motivate boys [quote=“Symbioserous-tanaris, post:76, topic:28580, full:true”]
Of course it isnt idiot. However, women are undereprested in the field, there participation in the field of computer science is minimal compared to men.
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So what? Who cares that in some areas there are more men, and in some areas there are more women? I don’t care who makes the game. Why do we want to force girls into STEM? Is that the biggest problem that our society is facing?

Just keep your attitude and in 20 years time when successful women are still seen as an exception rather than the norm, you can ponder why that is.

But I guess women will always dominate the health sector under the control of a male doctor is ok right?

Being a programmer is not a “sucsess”

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While Blizzard can give their money to whomever they want, it is a little concerning that they didn’t choose a charity that affects lives in need or people in more urgent situations. Hopefully, they will realize this and donate to make-a-wish or a cancer charity for the greater good. Not that such a charity is inherently political, but it does open the door for blizzard to donate to more opinionated projects and fewer charities that have mainstream support.

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Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder about women, minorities and the poor getting equal education opportunities?
My wife is a teacher, we live in Massachusetts. We have some of the best schools in the country, but she works in the low income areas and often with kids from very poor backgrounds. The low income schools are worse than most people can even understand. We’re talking schools that chew up and spit out fresh outta college teachers who think they are going to change the world so badly they end up changing careers.
Code dot org helps schools like that, where they don’t have money for supplies, books are old and full of outdated information and they never even interact with a computer during the course of their education unless it’s outside of school.
You are very laser-focused on the helping girls part for some reason but glossing over the big picture focus which is to give more kids more opportunities to learn about computer science so they can have more chances to succeed in life.
Nobody is talking about taking anything away from boys or men or anyone else, just giving the poor and disenfranchised a shot at something others already have.
The education system in the US is an overall mess right now when you look at our overall wealth and power in the world, and Code dot org is trying to make a small difference against overwhelming odds.
You really need to take a look at yourself and ask why this makes you so angry? Did you grow up living below the poverty line going to schools with overcrowded classrooms and laughably outdated materials? You sounds like the type of person who has trouble looking at things from other people’s perspective and just can’t see why helping educate people is a good thing.

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It should be for this (insert charity here) but it’s not why?!?!!!?!?

That’s what this sounds like. They didn’t have to give anything to anyone. Be glad they care enough to spend the resources to not make a penny off hard working artists and 3d modelers to give to (insert charity here).

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Neither is being an immigrant.

I was not aware this was a competition. Feel free to give money to who you wish. The organizations you mention have merit and so does Code-Org. To help people though education that will benefit them and society is a noble goal, especially if those being helped do not have the resources necessary to do it on their own.

My word, what kind of entitled society have we become when we complain about people helping other people? If you do not particularly have the need for the help Code-Org provides, good for you. But to try and deny it to others is the height of narcissism.

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