LOL make the req for Transfer to Era be something like AB and WSG exalted. Ill take those guys happily long as they don’t cry about 1 hr games.
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Nobody is joining WSG on Anniversary Fresh to lose for honor/rep.
There’s no reason to do that when AV exists.
On Era, the majority of players who want to rank are done ranking. That’s why you Era players have to literally plead on the forums for other Era players to queue up; the Era players who need to rank are stymied by the lack of participation and the changes to the honor milestones.
This is not happening on Anniversary Fresh because there’s still a considerable population that is ranking (ranking in AV, to belabor the point).
There is consistently 1-2 WSG games during peak hours on Anniversary Fresh. This expands to 3-4 simultaneous WSG matches during WSG weekend.
AB is pretty dead outside of AB weekend, unfortunately. I will need to wait for next AB weekend to get both my Druids to Honored.
It’s not a bad idea.
there are two options to allow clones:
- AV, WSG, AB exalted.
or - Every pve boss, including KT, killed
This would prevent bots and zero effort players
Yeah we sadly don’t get weekday WSG but we get a lot more than 3-4 during the weekends, as there are still people ranking on Era and the only time there are BGs are the weekends (so no BG tuesday to thursday) but then everyone is on during the weekends.
What killed weekday WSG was the new ranking system though, before it we had 5+ WSG all the time.
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Solid plan on the filter to keep out the botters and leeches.
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Those are the exact players that are cheating(buying gold).
They spend upwards of 300g per raid night on consumes and none of them farm for gold or mats for the consumables.
They’re mega arrogant about it too and call you “poor” if you say you’re against gold buying and then start bragging about their parses.
If this were true on Whitemane we would have an army of bots that you could not get past… YET our AH is very stable, you can make money on that (I do), and I can pick herbs on my herbalist, leveling mining if you desire and not get constantly spam undercut by bots on the AH all the time…
The Prices on the AH are very stable, and there are virtually zero bots on WMC. As for the dead realms, well if they were flooding us with good and gold then we would have massive inflation, but we don’t.
What you think of As “Swipemane” (your words) is very much not true at all.
As for the amount of consumes used in WSG, its as sweaty or sensible as it is that day, there really is no standardized play on how much is burned on that… I an I do use consumes when trying to break a turtle or cross Vs really smart players, but outside that I generally don’t.
The amount of cheaters is very very very low, this is both PVP and PVE, and the number of gold buyers is also very low. I can determine this without even looking for bots or asking questions because inflation in these games just like IRL is always a supply of liquidity flooding the market problem; if we had a plague of swipers (we don’t) then we would have inflation… (we don’t)
The only place on WoW where I see a ton of gold buying is Anniversary, Era, MoP, and Retail have less bots likely all together than on Nightslayer alone.
I’m talking about Anniversary dog.
/who Blackrock Spire
/who Stratholme
/Who 60 Mage Eastern Plaguelands
/who Dire Maul
Lookit all dem unguilded mages
Gold buying has been a thing on Era since 2019 my dude.
After the post-Wrath pre-Anni resurgence gold buying ticked up again.
Gold buying is cheating there’s no need to split that into a separate category.
“we have no inflation”
20g Mongoose pots 100g flasks and people paying hundreds of thousands of gold for mounts
Nightswiper has a ton of bots but that claim is spurious at best and is based on your own biases fueled by cognitive dissonance.
There are cheaters(gold buyers) on every version of WoW.
Denying it doesn’t make it untrue.
Yes, it went crazy, and then dropped to near zero when anniversary launched (also same during SoD).
So clones / xfers are directly asking for the return of both the gold buyers and sellers.
That’s exactly why we are skeptical of any potential benefits.
The only people coming back to Era will be the non-cheaters.
All the cheaters will be focused on getting “World firsts” in TBC Classic.
Zero chance of that. Every bot will come over unless the price is like $100 per clone.
If the price is like $20 a clone, that’s worth it even if the bot comes over with zero gear and gold (which they likely wont), because they will be able to farm with those toons
According to the forums the current price of gold on Anniversary is $10 for 1000g.
Unless it’s more on Era I don’t see them spending $20 to make $30.
You’re also ignoring the bots that are already on every Era server except Grobbulus.
well first spending $20 to make $30 is def worth it.
Do that with all 50,000 bots on anniversary and that’s half a million easy dollars.
But bots will come with resources that are easier to acquire on anniversary, they will then farm on Era, and then it gives them 50,000 bots that blizzard has to (won’t) ban to make Era clean again.
Era is good as is, unless people have a good reason why Era would benefit from anniversray transfers I don’t see any good reason for it.
Players had the choice and decided to play on progression realm, now they can enjoy tbc or reroll on Era.
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lol, lmao even.
High level resources are impossible to farm unless you do it at 2am PST on a Wednesday.
More max level characters == more raids == more activity on the server == healthier pug scene.
2019 is not Era, its a very different game.
I agree, this is why we don’t want anniversary transfers to Whitemane or Mankirk.
Correct, but no realm is a stuffed full of gold buyers like anniversary, and why we don’t want them back. They can stay on Anniversary and that’s fine by me.
You can pug near any raid you want on WMC at almost any time of day; there is no shortage of PVE. We have a very health PVE situation, a healthy AH and per capita the lowest amount of bots on near any version of the game.
Here’s the crazy thing, Era never catered to gold sellers that wanted to ban GDKPs, our raid scene is doing wonderful.
As cezar said you can find pugs for nearly any raid anytime of the day and fresh toons have no problem getting into MCs, ZG, AQ20 and starting their gear journey - they are in high demand.
What Era needs is more levelers and dedicated pvp players - anniversary clones do not really bring either of those, and actually reduce the number of levelers as less people will be re-rolling.
What Era does not need is players that afk in pvp, gold buyers, and bots - and anniversary clones will be nearly all those things.
GDKPs benefit gold sellers dog.
So do megaservers(Nightslayer’s primary driver for RMTs).
So does boosting.
You made a comment about the anti-GDKP crowd “spamming” the forums with anti-GDKP threads thus proving they’re gold sellers.
Go look at how many pro-GDKP threads there are right now vs how many anti-GDKP threads there are. Then look at the mega thread that all these pro-GDKP threads keep getting merged into.
By the logic you were using the Pro-GDKP crowd are the gold sellers because of how pushy they are being about GDKPs in Anniversary when they can just play Era if they wanted to go GDKP.
If pro-gdkp crowd were gold sellers they would be pro-anniversary transfers.
Way more buyers and demand for gold and players to sell to.
Era doesn’t want the gold buyers or sellers. Our GDKP system is a server wide DKP system and transfers undermine that with a influx of gold from a different universe that is full of cheaters and bots.
Besides the 100 good pvp players on anniversary, it just has nothing to offer Era. enjoy tbc.
Why do you think they’re pushing so hard for GDKPs on Anniversary when there’s already Era with GDKPs?
[Citation Needed]
Era is riddled with cheaters.
Always has been because blizzard doesn’t enforce their ToS.
Or do you think those fresh roll warriors that buy LHH + Edgies the moment they hit 60 farmed that gold?
If you look closely at those threads, nearly everyone asking for GDKP is a raider with logs and everyone anti-gdkp is a low level account with zero raid logs.
The players want it because it is a great system (look at thriving raid scene on Era) and the bot owners hate it because it makes their bots less profitable (look at all their anti-gdkp spam over the last year on low level accounts).
Edit: maybe you are a gold seller as well with your single ZG run. Why don’t you post on a main that actually raids?
You mean the raid logs that are driven by excessive consume usage to brute force 20 year old content?
People want it because they’re greedy and they get upset when someone else wins gear that they want.
Zero argument so you look up something unrelated to the argument to attack with.
I quit playing on Anniversary because it was impossible to farm my own consumes and I refuse to “give in” and cheat(buy gold) to get them.