Would be nice if we had the Legion arcane missile indicator with the 3 different charges on the side, then it’d be so much easier to know when I’m ready for an AM spam instead of having to look at buff bar or make a weakaura.
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This.
I would love a better way to tell other than looking for the icon in my pile of other icons for the number 2.
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So for the next few weeks, is it frost or arcane that seems to be the more usable spec?
Been fire for a while but it sounds like that ride is all but over. I’m a pretty casual player. Mostly questing, mythic+ stuff. I’m legitimately confused on where we are at in this transitional time.
Looks like arcane is ahead of frost and fire but just by a little in most fights,fire sure went down in dps after the prepatch.
No surprise there seeing as the entire spec hinged on an already over-performing essence which was in turn hilariously empowered by mastery stacking to ridiculous levels enabled by corruption. Everyone who knew anything about the state of them game knew that it would all go away with the end of corruption.
I suppose it may have been “fun” while it lasted but in the long run I think it will do a great deal of harm to the spec because it’s never going to feel like that again and the thousands of players who flocked to it while it was flavor of the month will probably never touch Fire or Mage again.
Just another one of the “unforeseen” consequences of the disastrous corruption system, the latest of the “borrowed powers” debacles.
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Bold of you to assume we can hit 3 stacks of clearcasting. Even with a full mana burn you need a moderate amount of luck.
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Well you can never hit 3 stacks of CC, period. We only get two (2) in SL. But I get your point, the rate of CC procs is very low. This is byproduct of it being tied to mana spent rather than the way it was in Legion and until that is changed I don’t see how it can be addressed. This is also in a direct clash with the mana conserve play style encouraged by the Enlightened talent. In short, Arcane needed a much more in-depth overhaul, something at the level Shadow Priests got, but alas once again we drew the short stick.
Personally, and I know this is controversial, I think that Arcane needs to be divorced from it’s reliance on mana management because no other dps class has to deal with that kind of resource and it can be an incredible hindrance especially in some aspects of the game like say M+ and also it’s boring and not conducive to dynamic play which is what dps classes are all about.
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Persoanlly i just advocate for more clearcasting. But yeah, there are some fundamental problems with the way the spec works, like arcane power reducing the number of procs you get.
On the prepatch I have been getting 3 stacks of clearcadting procs, has this been hot fixed or are they removing it when the expansion goes live?
I mean, yes but also no.
Fire mage got out of control, but they needlessly screwed with how ignite spreads.
It should be spreading passively. Forcing people to use fire blast to spread a 4 second DoT hurts the spec more than anything. And it doesn’t work flavor wise, either.
If ur on fire and ur near someone, they’re eventually gonna start burning, too.
Mastery needs to be reverted and phoenix flames should guarantee a crit on the first target so it can be used for Hot Streak flamestrikes
3 stacks is max, now. I really enjoy that portion, but feel like you don’t really get to use it much. The highest I got was 2, and thanks to the less than visible indicator, I don’t know if I got clearcast off a clearcast or if I actually had 2 clearcast procs ready.
You can, the possibility is there. Feel free to look at patch notes if you don’t believe me.
Now, on the matter of if you ever get to have 3 stacks of clearcasting, that’s a different matter entirely.
I would love proc rate of clearcasting to be increased.
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You can comfortably stack at least 2 Clearcasting procs for burst phases. You just need to be prudent about maintaining it. If your CC proc has a few seconds left on it, don’t dump your charges. Fish for another one with 4 charge AB.
I’m doing it on prepatch with what amounts to trash gear on account of virtually skipping BFA mage. It’ll only get easier with increased Mastery and the AP CDR conduit.
If anything I want them to increase CC duration if they aren’t willing to increase proc rate just to make this easier.
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Is it really? It used to be only 2 stacks for the longest time during the Beta and I must have missed the reference in the patch notes. I never really tried to get 3 stacks on Live because I thought two was the limit but even so getting even two can be a struggle most of the time because of the low proc rate as well as the relatively low duration of CC itself (again given the abysmal proc rate). Well if it’s 3 we really need the Legion era indicator ASAP. I hope they keep reading the forums. 
I’ve been able use 3 CCs in a row. I didn’t pay attention to see if the CC icon had a number 3 on it, or if i happened to gain a CC while using one of my CCs.
How will Arcane Prodigy help fish for CC?
Also, I’m not sure how the CC indicator looked in Legion because I skipped that expansion…
but if it’s like an arc on the very outside of the indicator that starts off 1/3 full and fills in as you gain stacks that would be cool. Probably a little late to implement that now.
Take a look at the short video in this post. I’d much rather have how it looked in Legion than having to rely on a weakaura.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-mage-class-changes/490704/272?u=hasylla-senjin
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cries in fire
Okay, can confirm we can get 3 stacks of Clearcasting.
This makes me want a better indicator even more now.
Arcane Prodigy
=> more uptime on Arcane Power
=> cheaper Arcane Blast casts
=> more 4 charge Arcane Blast casts
=> more (high) CC proc chances
Yeah, that would be an improvement for sure.
I could see them removing that from BFA because Clearcasting didn’t stack outside of a PVP talent, so you talent into an icon indicator… but now that CC stacks are a baseline part of the spell, that indicator should come back.
Unless they plan on having CC stack more than 3 times. Like if they make the PVP talent work so there can be a stack of 6. I’m a fan of not having to move my eyes around too much, that’s a stated design philosophy for the D4 development team, so hopefully it isn’t overlooked.
Completely agree, the 3-stack missile indicators would be awesome now that we can stack again.
It’s in the patch notes. If I could attach images or links, I’d put up a screenshot if I could, but maybe this’ll show:
- Clearcasting now has additional effects – Stacks up to 3 times and causes your Arcane Missiles to fire 1 additional missile.