Cleanse Toxins

The bigger problem is having the Aegis talent, Judgment of Light Talent all above Cleanse Toxins.

Sheer throughput talents are somehow above a utility that all paladins have for free now.

Turn evil is in a similarly precarious spot.

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Update: Pally trees were just updated and cleanse toxins got moved closer to the top. I’m happy.

I like that Cleanse is easier to get in general.

Except that they moved the 2% crit talent way up and now we have to go to that to get all our dps increasing talents


Not quite true. If you get healed before you hit 20% you can make it much higher. That said, I still won’t be taking Sacrifice if I can help it
 because it’s not worth a point over damage. Magic Cleanse, though? I’d take that.

Why isn’t cleanse baseline? Honestly, that says Paladin all over it, and making us spec into it, makes me feel like whoever is working on Paladins is either spiteful, or an idiot. Either way, Ret Paladins are going to be a meme Spec like we were in BC!

If you weren’t around for BC let me tell you; we were a joke. You got invited to Raids if they needed a warm body. We got gear last, our DPS was laughable, and even the BIS Optimally played Rets couldn’t compete with other Melee like Warriors. Hell, CAT Druids had way better DPS than we did! That’s what this feels like to me. We’re going to be a joke again.

Also, has anyone seen Divine Toll as one our talents in the tree?? DT is freaking Bad@ss and I am going to be so pissed if we lose it after SL!

Divine Toll (Second the last row) is in both Prot and Ret tree’s (We dont have Holy tree yet).

Also right now where Cleanse toxins is it’s easy to pick up compared to where it was.

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