I feel like this does NOT work properly. Sometimes it works, but I feel like most of the time it doesn’t.
Have you all found that to be true? Is this just not worth taking?
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It has a hidden cap on it so it isn’t broken in how much it dispels. The default talent itself only works within your aura (10 yards). If you want it to work for 40 yards you need to also take Divine vision that makes your aura 40 yards and gives 15% shadow damage reduction.
It definitely does what it says and it is a solid talent against shadow priests and pretty strong vs. assassination rogues if they ever become strong. It helps vs. many other classes, just not nearly as overpowered.
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Okay, this is helpful, but I’m still a little confused.
- First, what do you mean by “hidden cap?”
- Second, if heal with holy light, does it still cleanse the same way, even if they’re outside of your aura?
- And third, just curious, is trading out DiviveFavor/UltSac/Light’sGrace for DivineVision/CleansetheWeak worth it? If so, which ones do you trade out against SPriest/Sin?
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By hidden cap I mean it doesn’t literally dispel everything it would from the description.
For example, say you’re in an RBG and all 10 teammates have corruption on them, cleanse the weak might only dispel 7-8 of them. It is capped for different spells as well, for example if you dispel UA on a player, it will not dispel any further UAs on other players, even if they are within your aura. No idea however how the cap specifically works for each spell, but it is pretty liberal. -
Holy light will only remove disease and poisons, it will not remove magic like your normal cleanse would. It will only remove the diseases and poisons on that specific player and those within your aura. So with Divine vision, casting holy light with cleanse the weak, it would remove all diseases and poisons within 40 yards if the healed person has those debuffs, otherwise the default is 10 yards.
For that reason, it is really powerful vs. sin rogues, and decent against UH dk, although not amazing since UH dk does plenty of damage outside of diseases.
- Vs. Spriest I would certainly weight it heavily, as divine vision is a flat 15% reduction to ALL shadow damage, which is a lot, and cleanse the weak really hurts a lot of its damage. It is powerful however against any rot comps and any dot comp with a ele shaman.
The only thing I don’t know is if cleanse the weak is worth it vs. affliction lock since UA hits so hard - assuming that lock is running 3 UA conduit. You’d need to ask someone who is more serious about arena than I. I mainly do RBGs so I can dispel a person usually that a warlock placed corruption on who doesn’t have UA and still remove most of the corruptions on all other players who do have UA, thus by-passing the dispel protection on those players the other team has.
This is very helpful. I agree, I think it’s only worth trading out for SPriest and Sin rogues. The hidden cap thing is helpful.
But there are still times when it feels like it doesn’t work. For instance, I’ll be playing against a Boomkin/Elly shaman, and Flame Shock, Frost Shock, Moonfire, Sunfire, are all on my partner and me. I’ll dispel, and it only cleanses my partner for those things, and not me. Maybe I need to do more testing, but this is what I feel like keeps happening. Is that normal?
Now, in those situations where DivineVision+CleantheWeak is worth taking, what do you trade out? I’m assuming Light’s Grace and Divine Favor?
Also, I noticed you mentioned auras are only 10 yards, but I think that changed from BFA to SL. Now their tooltip shows them at 40 years, and Divine Vision extending it to 70. Double-check that. And if that’s the case, shouldn’t Cleanse the Weak work just fine up to that 40yd range?
Note: Please don’t take my questions or clarifications as any kind of pushback. Your feedback is really helpful and appreciated! I’m just trying to completely iron this out!
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You are right. It doesn’t work correctly. I have submitted a bug multiple times many months apart but still not fixed.