Class/Race Restrictions

I know this is a topic often discussed, but I know I am not alone in thinking that it is time to lift restrictions on class and race combinations. The heart of RPG is having the freedom to create any character you can dream of–having a backstory for your character is something extremely enriching, and everyone should be able to have their most ideal character to play as.

I understand that there are some restrictions that come from this being a physical, tangible game created by a group of people for us to play with limited resources, but you think of almost any class/race combo and there is a lore example of that character being possible.

I can understand Blizzard not wanting to make a druid form for every single race and allied race that is in the game now, but MOST class/race combos wouldn’t require that level of art team development time to get it into player hands. The other class that comes to mind is shaman, because totems are an art development, but I personally feel that would be an investment that would be worth it for Blizzard in the long run, as totems are (I imagine) a much smaller time sink than making individual druid forms for every race.

Player agency seems to be something that Blizzard is trying to get back to in some capacity, and this would go a long way towards that goal.

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yeah

who cares about lore

i want an ak-47 for my mage

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It’s almost as though you ignored my entire post, but I’m not too surprised by that.

Most race/class combos have plenty of in-game lore examples–it is actually possible (and even, quite easy) to both allow player choice and still be true to lore.

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It would definitely take a lot of work to make things like druid for every race, but I’d love it personally. I think it would be worth it. The only problem then would be choosing between all of the races…

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Worgen monks!

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I prefer the restrictions.

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then give these examples you claim exist

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I’m indifferent. I love most of my race/class combos right now anyway. I wouldn’t change my pally to any other horde race.

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I don’t care about the lore at this point. Blizz retcons the lore when it suits them. I don’t want lore to be what stops us from having the choice of the race/class combination we really want.

I wanted to make a Kul Tiran Paladin and was very disappointed to see they could not be Paladins. WTH? So I still don’t have an Ally Paladin because I can’t play the race I really want to play as one.

I really want a Tauren Mage too and a Draenei Rogue, a Monk Worgen and Goblin. Very disappointing again.

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Then you don’t need to make the class/race combos you disagree with. Why is it that someone else in the world playing a class/race combo you maybe disagree with detracting from your own play?

I am pretty big on playing a game that feels “real”, and would probably prefer to play on an RP server, but if you feel the same way, then play on an RP server and anyone you run into will have their own backstory and lore reason for their toon existing. Otherwise, you can just ignore everyone around you, as we are all canonically these “lore giants”, which is already somewhat lore breaking to me anyways.

Which class/race combo were you thinking of? There is a night elf Paladin in the Paladin order hall, worgen shaman on the island expeditions, undead Paladins exist in lore…I’m sure I could do some research and find almost any combo you could think of, outside of things like Undead Druid which I agree would be a hard sell.

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I personally feel it detracts from the game over all. The classes a race can be is a direct reflection of the lore and culture of the race.

I would only support fully unlocking all races for all classes if there were also negative class traits.

This is often reflected in other RPGs where any race can be any class.

Gnomes and Goblins get noticeably less strength for melee based classes.

Tauren get lest Intelligence for arcane based classes.

Dwarves get less agility for agility based classes.

Etc.

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It is sad to me that someone else getting something they dream of having is such a negative to so many people. I don’t see how it so strongly affects lore–look at Death Knights, everyone said it would break lore to have Allied Races able to be DKs because of the fact it would mess up the timeline so bad, but they still were able to make it happen.

And can we talk about how ridiculous Lightforged Draenei DKs are? And yet, they are playable. And even though I can’t even fathom wanting to have a LF DK, I would never want to take that away from someone who was really excited to have that as an option.

Also, as a last note… Even if there was a negative race trait for the class/race combo I want, I would 100% still play it.

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I appreciate how willing you are to step on the dreams of others so that you can get what you want.

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There’s even ways to do that. Give them undead forms to turn into. For gnomes/goblins and the diaper gnomes, give them mecha/robot forms.

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I’m with Akston’s logic on this one.

The current restrictions add to the game rather than detract from it in my opinion.

As much as I’m secretly a fan of seeing Stormwind human druids I understand that it’s not a possibility for a reason.

Blizzard went harder on the class restrictions for Lightforged Draenei but it makes sense because we’re a lot more of a zealous sort of people.

I would be ok for changes to a races available classes if they provide some kind of story to it like they did for DKs.

I suppose you could argue that I want to step on the anti-dream. I have a hard time understanding the “yes we love restrictions” camp, as for me and RPG means open skies and unlimited possibilities, but I don’t think there is much more I can say in direct conversation with you.

I absolutely agree, but I also don’t have any definable “in lore” examples of those particular class/race combos. They can definitely be given a story and be done, but there are also so many class/race combos that DON’T exist but DO have lore examples backing them up. It is silly to me.

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Frankly I think if they could make lightforged draenei death knights work, they could do pretty much anything they wanted.

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No.

Its not an anti dream.

Thats fine. That doesn’t mean my dream is worth saying its “anti dream”.

My dream is to play a game where the lore is not casually disregarded, that the classes a race can play reflect the culture of the race.

It means a person has to make decisions of consequence based on the class/race set up.

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Light forged Draeneis make sense… to be a DK you have to die. Every race in Azeroth is 100% capable of dying.

With all said though it does look like they’re heading in the direction of regarding the lore, less and less.