Classic's success will forever change retail for the better

You cant be that dense. Subs are down, so much less Sub fee revenue. So they make the money from teh cash shop selling boosts, mounts, faction transfers etc etc. That has almost no over head and is pretty much all 100% profit

Mass decurse and resist gear, I guess.

From what I can tell and what I remember at the time, vanilla also had a lot of positioning fights that were considered grueling at the time, because people just would not go where they were supposed to. For any group that got through a soak-fest like Tomb of Sargeras and Antorus, though, a fight where you run to the same spots every time should be trivial.

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2000 people standing around a town looks like a lot, but that is a far shot from 2 million.

Their server can’t handle that kind of load, and they didn’t need it for the stress tests
 that should tell you everything you need to know right there.

During stress, 25k each phase, for 10 phases. = 250k people not millions, that is only a quarter of a million.

Max view on twitch were 50 - 96k at peak.

A far cry from 1 million let alone millions
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You thought gcd was bad? Time for auto attacking while waiting for your ablity to come off of cool down

The talent tree is mostly crap too. You would imagine that with three talent tree. If you spec the full 30 + points into one you’d actually be competetive not have to do cookie cutter spec.

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Just stop talking you have 0 clue what you’re talking about.

Go watch another Asmongold video or something.

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Are you aware that the most profitable games are Mobile phone games right now, because teh cash shops in them make tremendous amounts of money. Candy Crush blows WOW out of the water

Right now there’s DPS bag’s for heroic dungeons. just thought I’d throw that out there. tinypic com 35i6u05 jpg
And you say people aren’t hyped for classic.

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It’s really not.

Nobody does heroics to get geared anymore your reaching.

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lots of fanboys afraid of classic release

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you think because you see 200 people phased together to make the world “look full” that there is millions playing?

It is a magicians illusion.

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Ok yeah sure thumbs up gif

I’m sure Classic will do fine. But anyone expecting the rose colored glasses to suddenly 180 the Retail version is crazy sauce. The game and market has changed over the years, as the saying goes “There’s no going home” to fully recapture nostalgia.

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Why did you bring up Twitch? What does twitch have to do with anything?

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It is to me. Unless you have some kind of information that provides the exact sub numbers. Otherwise I will stand by my opinion.

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I mean yeah you right. Until mid AQ40 there weren’t really any interesting mechanics.

It was hard because people were bad.

Enjoying having 16, 18 if you’re lucky, slot bags on your character and bank filled with fire resist, nature resist, frost resist, pve gear, and pvp gear. Assuming you only play 1 spec and have an interest in pve and pvp. If you play multiple expect more sets.

Throw in consumables. ALL of the consumables. Now that’s a real grind with bad drop rates.

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Got an official source? Didn’t think so. I doubt subs are that low.

That is how many people care enough to watch classic
 Is that not a metric because you find offence to it?

Well too bad.

Time to grow up sonny. This is real life.

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Did we really need another Classic Propaganda thread?

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my guy

retail is already "180"ing retail

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Why is it concerning? Do any other MMOs give sub numbers out? Why is it ONLY concerning that Blizzard doesn’t?

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