So, I really want classic+ to be a thing. However, I really doubt Blizzard will ever do something like this. Unless Microsoft steps in. The current dev team is too prideful of their “vision” of WoW and what it has become today.
By having Classic+ it would be a true competitor of retail WoW. I’m afraid it would outshine retail and would also show the current devs that their “design vision” is not popular with the majority.
I mean, this is the same dev team that spoke for their own community by saying, “you think you do, but you don’t” in regards to classic servers. Well, I think a lot of people actually did.
So i am very doubtful classic+ will ever become a thing because the ego’s are real.
Classic + is a lose/lose for Blizzard. Either they do it and you’ll cry its bad, or they don’t do it and you cry its ego. I don’t see any outcome players are happy.
Unless they want to continue steadily losing subs, they need to do a big change-up like introducing Classic+
All the old folks I know would re-sub in a heartbeat after years away from the game.
At this point, I’m pretty over retail. The story has been FUBAR’d, beloved characters are ruined beyond the point of fixing, the systems upon systems, the scaling of zones and content, the petty resistance to letting players enjoy evergreen content (flight, transmog farming old raids, etc…)
It’s all pretty awful.
Classic+ would be something the game needs, which is essentially, a hard reboot. New content set in the old world before it was overly ruined by rule of cool or marketing making gameplay decisions.
Speaking for myself, I’d want to see the level cap stay at 60. Classic+ servers could just be fresh servers, everyone starting out at level 1. New zones like Hyjal, Grim Batol, Gilneas, etc… can all just be max level areas.
I’d definitely want to see new races though. What keeps me off Classic right now is the available races. Horde Ogres or Goblins (or both). Alliance High Elves. Maybe add Draenei, just neutral. They always felt very neutral.
All that, would be enough to get me sold. Ideally, I wouldn’t mind seeing some class changes (making Arcane Mage viable, for example), but even that I wouldn’t consider a huge necessity or anything. Some new zones, some new races, that’s really all I’d need to see from a Classic+ experience.
Especially this… Almost everyone asking for classic+ is asking for horizontal progression.
I think this is what ultimately destroyed the game for me. Why is leveling even still a feature in retail? You never “get stronger” you never go back to a quests when you get stronger. Why is gearing still a thing too in retail? The world scales to your IL as well… Everything about both features are lazy designs simply because the current devs don’t want to “balance” the world. Retail WoW isn’t about the journey/exploration, or even social aspect that came with raids. It’s all about rushing 5 man mythics and doing daily chores.
I’m sure if they even announced “SoM 2: Explore the realm of Hyjal!” their profits go up. Retail and Classic can coexist just fine. Dial in on what each group wants/likes and just do that.
Retail players like instanced content but open worlds to just chill around in, I guess. And lots of collectibles. So PvE heavy, collectibles, pretty landscapes.
The majority of Classic players express they want the 04 looking gfx and for cut vanilla content to be made/completed. Add dungeons and raids slowly. Add everything slowly. There’s one thing you know about your Classic crowd is they’re patient. A single zone with a dungeon/raid in it would drive them wild.
I personally couldn’t care less about raiding but us pvp enjoyers are easy to please. So long as there are red letter people running around, I’m happy. But don’t forget about us like in retail.
Unless they do a hard reset, and say N’zoth made us all think we experienced this or something.
Shadowlands abilities are still in the talent trees, ffs. They didn’t fit the classes/specs they were assigned to, and are ugly to look at.
The lore is still alluding to Shadowlands as well, next patch there’s bits of Ardenweald in the Emerald Dream.
I want to forget Shadowlands, not relive it.
Playing HC with my remaining time, lol.
They should do a Classic+ like TBC, with the cap being 70, more specs being viable, and Karazhan, Blood Elves, etc, just no Outland maybe, but a fully complete Azeroth.
Increasing the level cap feels like it moves away from Classic, in my opinion.
Karazhan would be great. Not so sold on Blood Elves to be honest. I think it’d be more interesting to give the Alliance playable High Elves and turn Quel’Thalas into a max level zone and have the Ruins of Silvermoon City as a 40 man raid, and Zul’Aman as a 20 man raid.
I just don’t like how they handled alchemy profession with TBC. I don’t like the idea behind guardian and battle elixirs. I really like vanilla’s style for this. I also don’t mind vanilla’s talent trees.
Because it’s not bad. Ruenann said exactly what I was going to say on this subject. Reread his post, he is correct. Let it rest at that. I dont want to play it. Most people do not. You do so many modes in WoW, Blizz still only has us paying one sub to play multiple different game modes. They start adding more and more game modes and still only one sub in there to keep things going, then they are going to end up losing money big time and would start shutting down multiple different game modes. Be happy with what we got. Stop asking for more. You ask for more, disaster happens.
I anticipate it’s going to be announced, players are going to cry that it’s not what they wanted or not what they were expecting and lay out all these unreasonable expectations Blizzard had no hope of ever meeting.
I dont think classic + will work well, i mean i just dont see the current dev team being able to make a decent game. Classic + sounds great until I think of how all the good blizz games are all old games. Diablo 1 and 2, warcraft 3, classic wow, and hardcore classic which is just a addon turned into an official mode. I’ll drink toilet water if im wrong.