Classic WoW has exceeded all expectations

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Rick’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick’s existential catchphrase “Wubba Lubba Dub Dub,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools… how I pity them.

classic did about what i expected actually, it didnt exceed it

Here’s the raid logs for Heroic Eternal Palace today:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/reports?zone=23&boss=0&difficulty=4&class=Any&spec=Any&kills=0&duration=0

Here’s the raid logs for Classic today, Onyxia and MC combined:

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/reports?

On most servers at any time of the day, 30-40% of the players online are level 60. Raids in Classic are easier than Heroic raiding, yet are being run a fraction compared to the number of raids being run on BfA.

Addon downloads between the two games are also very similar. There’s no reason to think that Classic is going to overtake Modern WoW, especially considering the very noticeable dropoff of players.

I had expected a sharp dropoff within the first month. I was marvelling just a week or two ago that there had not been that much attrition. I thought, maybe this thing has some legs after all.

Turns out that it wasn’t smaller than expected… just later than expected.

Yep. It’s here, and it’s real. Even here on the forums, there has been noticeably less activity in the past 1-2 weeks.

Lots have quit.

Once they realized how long the journey is, how broke they would be, and how much starting over really meant, many cut bait.

Compounding this was that some people joined pvp servers without fully understanding that imbalances would occur, transfers would not, and guilds are a fine a dozen.

Still, it’s been better than I expected it to be. I’m still having fun.

The fact lots have quit and it’s barely noticable is indicative of Classic’s success. There isn’t a single server on Classic WoW right now that would be considered “low pop” or even “medium pop” by Vanilla WoW’s or even BFA’s standards as the Classic realms are massively increased in their capacity.

When layers are removed and phase 2 comes back I expect tons of people who have stopped playing to return as well now that there’s more to do at level 60 besides Onyxia and Ragnaros

You’re right. The best representation is in-game, and what I see is classic is still jam packed and the center of attention 2 months in and people are already complaining about 8.3 before it’s even out. Nobody is online on live. They replaced titanforging with something worse. I know a lot of people don’t want to admit BFA is dead but it is dead.

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What i find humorous, is once again, Blizzard cannot admit they messed up and they need to go back to “Talent Trees”. Everything they have attempted since they pulled the trees out have FAILED… hence why they keep trying new things. Rather comical at this point.

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Maybe for their financial statements, but my sub is cancelled unless I see some effort expended to fix some of the bugs we’ve been reporting for months.

Kind of missing my point. When Classic has been out for 12 months it won’t be “jam packed” as it is now. I’m sure it’ll still have an active community though.

Also, making in-game comparisons is a pretty loaded statement. For example, if you’re playing on Stormrage, Area 52, etc there are plenty of people on at all hours of the day and night. The statement you made seems to be drawing a comparison to lower pop retail servers, which is a skewed comparison. If I’m not mistaken, retail has more servers than classic.

Like what?

Why do people raidlog Ony and MC at all? Its possible that on your realm 30-40% of the players online at a given time are 60, but I doubt that’s where most of the playerbase is. Yes, still.

I don’t see a 15 year old game supplanting live WoW though, and really the only reason its possible is because its at all time lows. Classic is a relic mmo with dated graphics, poor implementation on Blizz’s part, and is a completely known game with a limited future. That it is as popular as it is, and still has the devoted fans that it has, is pretty incredible. Maybe Blizz or someone could remember why mmo’s were a thing in the first place.

Or they could just rehash another nostalgia xpac, this time lich king, shuffle around some numbers, this time level squish, changing virtually nothing, and introduce some more cute pets in the cash shop.

I expected the drop off around the 3 month mark, you were guessing a little early

40-60 is when people really quit

This is precisely the reason why we need classic to remain classic and prevent it from evolving into the nightmares known as TBC and beyond.

It may not “supplant it” as with more active players but if your looking at WOW as a whole and you see 40% or 50% even 60% of your player population is playing your 15 year old game and most of your “new/returning” subs are coming in for Classic and not Retail, then the future of Retail wow looks bleak unless philosophical changes take place. If they keep pushing out the same old droning rush to end cap, gateway daily’s no chance to “play with your specs”. Then the future of retail is indeed bleak. But i will say if they do make some philosophical changes about how they go about their next xpacs then maybe they can restore wow to the exciting and fun MMO it once was.

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thanks for proving me right, u are so wrong indeed

its just like i remember it i am happy with it.