Classic+ without breaking classic?

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Inb4 #nochanges assaults me with thought bullets, I’m perfectly happy with what we have been promised, an authentic classic experience. This is an idea in response to others’ requests, for classic+ content. With the game in beta already the likelihood of this being taken seriously is extremely tiny, but just a thought.

There was a recent post that mentioned the wow classic announcement trailer with chromie which gave me an idea. What If they added the monthly time walking holiday from retail to classic at some point. Perhaps in a new phase 7 that’s several months or longer after naxx’s phase 6.

Obviously it would be a reverse time walking, a back to the future sort of endeavor. Perhaps in this way we could run karazhan and other instances or even quest in zones that players periodically ask for to be added after naxx as classic+ content.

The loot tables would have to be hashed out, thoroughly discussed, and implemented in such a way as to not break naxx. So as not to break classic as a whole. Dire maul didn’t break the overall experience of vanilla wow for example.

Dire maul loot tables did trivialize molten core in a way, everyone knows this. But this new time walking event, however, could potentially add multiple instances and zones of content, rotating each month. And only have the impact of adding 1 new dire maul type dungeon after the naxx phase.

Atiesh would be a pretty popular staff during the karazhan time walking period I bet.

Thoughts?

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I don’t think about stuff that’s not going to happen.

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if theres gonna be any sort of a Classic+, then its gonna take place on separate servers and not be timewalking or reverse timewalking or nothing like that
you just make a character on the server, start out at level 1 like everyone else, and make your way through the game without being associated with any other server
and it’d be different than Classic

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ONE STEP AT A TIME LADDIE

One step at a time… Lets get to release first. And then to AT LEAST AQ40 before we start waving these banners around for additional classic content? We’ll wind up teleported to retail without realizing it and go “WHAAAAAAAAt CRAP!”

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O like the captain of the Titanic LoL.

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Yup… smells like Sunday

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Here is the “bottom line” when it comes to anything beyond Classic. Blizzard/Activi$ion would have to split their teams in order work on both retail and any “Classic+” and get NOTHING for it, it’s the same revenue (as of this time no other way to monetize Classic has been shared). Now maybe they plan to do Classic Expansions and those be sold similar to retail expansions? I have no idea but I can’t see them doing the extra work and extra personnel for the same revenue.

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#NoChanges pew pew pew

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Great one, and kinda like the Titanic, Classic + would sink like it struck an iceberg.

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no, if they do classic+ content it should be on another server

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Yet here we are.

No. No changes. Thanks. Goodbye.

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Classic is classic simply because it is exactly how it was to the best of their ability. They are on the record saying it will be a stagnant world and if the demand is high enough they will open other servers for TBC etc. The instant they add anything to classic they take away the fact that it is classic and a lot of the players would leave too. They understand that fact. There is also no more power the players could really afford to get. Naxxramas gear makes the world trivial and even players in high warlord sets get stomped. Play classic for the experience, if you expect it to last 6+ years I think you will be let down. The server might very well be up then but the player base will have all but dwindled most likely.

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The fact that classic will stay classic, keeping it like a museum, will actually keep people testing it out, people will get older, and take their children to show them, this is what we played back in the day… so im not so sure that all will move on, sure people will move on, but new people will also want to test the social experience classic was…

i can see oldies grouping up every weekend to do alittle content, to keep in touch… but yes we will see

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I don’t know, this seems convoluted to me. Going in reverse to go back to the future? How does that even work? Do you have some new flux capacitor? Is it from the future?

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I love seeing all the delusional people out there clinging to the fantasy that Classic will somehow remain ‘pure’ and ‘unchanging’ post-Naxx.

When it comes down to it, there really are only five options on what will happen when Naxx is on farm:

  1. Stagnation and decline - With no new content, the servers become more and more bloated with people having eight alts all in full tier sets, with nothing to do because there are no new challenges, and the communities begin withering and dying because people go elsewhere, where they can get new challenges and new experiences. Maybe it is ESO or FF14. Maybe they even gasp return to Retail WoW, despite its flaws, because it is SOMETHING to do, even if it isn’t all that interesting.
  2. Server Wipes - Every few months, the grim reaper comes through the servers with his scythe and just cuts down everyone and everything, wiping the servers of all characters and guilds, giving people new challenges by forcing them to start again from the beginning.
  3. Patch 1.13/Classic+ - Blizzard begins making new material for Classic, in a horizontal fashion. Level and item caps remain, but new material is added in, like OSRS.
  4. WoW 2 - Starting from the end of Classic, Blizzard begins developing new material and new content vertically, going in a different direction from the Burning Crusade.
  5. Classic TBC - Roll out the Classic treatment for the Burning Crusade, continuing the story that many players first fell in love with.

Now, there’s pros and cons to all of these. With stagnation, the purists can have their perfect museum piece, unchanging and sterile, like a statue on display, but possessing none of the life that inspired it. Of course, that means the communities would be dead, or a pale shadow of what they once were, mainly comprised of people circle jerking to memories of days gone by, and yelling at kids to get off their lawn.

With Server Wipes, everything old is new again, but when you finally complete Naxxramas with your guild, only for the server to reset before you have a chance to show off your new gear, resetting you back to a level one newbie, that is a psychological kick in the balls, and discouraging for people who are pushing hard for that high-end content.

Patch 1.13 is an interesting idea. But OSRS is a very different beast from WoW, and always has been, even when both were in their original forms. OSRS has always been a sandbox, where anything can happen. WoW has been more of a theme park from the beginning. Sometimes more managed and sometimes less, but a theme park nonetheless. The factors that led to the success of OSRS would not necessarily apply to patch 1.13. And Blizzard, especially the Blizzard of 2019, is not Jagex.

And what of WoW 2? Well, in theory, it is a good idea. Great, even. But in practice, do you have trust and faith in the Blizzard of 2019 to create new material for a WoW 2, and have it be in the same vein of Classic? Or would they make it more like Retail, with heavy RNG, slot machines, and a cash shop, all with Activision pressing for more monetization as they did to Destiny?

Which leaves Burning Crusade. Widely called the best expansion in WoW’s history, and where a great many of the players started playing. There are some changes from Vanilla, true, and other things like flying which annoy purists, but overall, it was wildly successful. And TBC is a known quantity. As with 1.12, people know and remember TBC, which means the Blizzard of today would not be making new material for it.

Personally, I would like to see TBC come out next, because it would give the Blizzard of 2019 more of a chance to relearn how to be the Blizzard of 2004.

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If you are perfectly happy, then what is the point? This so called “Classic+” simply will not happen.

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What the #nochangers don’t understand is that Blizzard isn’t a charity and if Classic is successful, there will be something else. If we don’t push for that something else to be Classic+, it will most likely be TBC, and people will move on from Vanilla. It won’t be a museum because there will be no one playing it to make it feel alive. It will be a dead Vanilla wasteland with a few hardcore players, and will feel nothing like the Vanilla we knew that had millions of players.

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You can continue telling yourself that but the fact is that this so called “Classic+” is not going to happen. Classic has not even been released to everyone yet and you and others who share this strange sentiment of “Classic+” are already asking for changes… :thinking: :roll_eyes:

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I whole heartedly support Classic+
I think it would be great to add in more content to the level 60 universe. More 5 mans, more 10 man raids. Maybe new BGs. New zones. Add in inscription and Jewelcrafting. I don’t see the problem

It’s not the players game, it’s Blizzards. But this said I recognize it won’t happen

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O come it was simple humor. Besides you walked into that with that comment, or rather lack of a comment.

Anyways I’m not saying it would or wouldn’t sink I was just positing an idea that could allow for content after naxx that possibly wouldn’t hurt the overall classic experience.