Classic WILL destroy BFA

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I don't know that I agree with Classic destroying BFA, I think Blizzard already did that themselves, but I am definitely looking forward to it. I miss the custom character specs and theory crafting that vanilla offered. I miss proving people wrong about certain builds (lol). I miss the fact that you had to LEARN your class instead of copying a spec and rotation from Icy Veins. I miss the world buffing. I miss people actually feeling like part of a team when you down a raid boss instead of a bunch of separate individuals (as it stands now). I miss the military style BGs instead of the crap that has become PVP because of the lack of leadership in groups. I miss my XP bar (BLIZZARD :( and I still want to know who thought it would be a good idea to take that away because frankly, it wasn't). Anyways, just my two cents on Classic.
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10/03/2018 01:54 AMPosted by Mythreus
10/02/2018 08:23 PMPosted by Hellzfire
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When retailers still complain about classic after release


Good standard. Because people in this game dont complain about literally everything everyday all day.

:)


I mean it was a joke... partially. If Classic does somehow beat out retail, you know people on retail will blame classic wow for the 'fall' of wow or something like that
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It always amuses me when people say 1.12.1 is "hard" or is "effort based".

I love Vanilla, I do. The reality is though, 1-60 will take a good player 150-170 hours whereas retail takes 100-120 hours. 30%ish difference.

You farm pre-raid BIS in a week or two, and then you raid log for the next year or two (minus some farming of mats/alts/fun times).

Meanwhile in retail I'm slamming my face into +9 or +10 clusters for an absurd amount of hours praying to RNG 2 months into the expansion with no end in sight.

Seriously, Vanilla is a relaxing game compared to retail. I do not mean that in a bad way, and I want to play it (and have).

I literally leveled to 60 once by binding all my dots and pet to my scroll wheel as Warlock, and just watched netflix and spun my scrollwheel for 160 hours.
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10/02/2018 08:35 PMPosted by Shilsta
10/02/2018 08:29 PMPosted by Yorkshire
As long as they withhold sub numbers I don't see how we'd even know.


Write a macro to /who every different race, zone, class and then tally the result. You can do this on every server or average your statistics by sampling the medium servers, high servers and low servers, then use those results as an estimate.

Do your own research instead of trusting the words of others, you will be happier with the results and know them to be true rather than some sort of second hand lies presented by lazy squatters.


wont work because of sharding. you would miss out on a lot of people no matter how hard you tried
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Destroy? No.

Overtake in popularity? Sure. I expect an OS Runescape scenario. :)
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10/02/2018 08:13 PMPosted by Ladalrus
Like if you agree


Counterpoint: get this crap out of the classic forum.
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The two versions are not in competition with each other.
They are separate games appealing to different play styles.

D2 didn't die out when D3 came out. Both have a healthy player base.
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I think BFA will be over and onto a new expac before Classic is released. Just my .02
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Makes an even stronger case for a combined sub.
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10/03/2018 05:49 AMPosted by Zionfist
10/02/2018 08:35 PMPosted by Shilsta
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Write a macro to /who every different race, zone, class and then tally the result. You can do this on every server or average your statistics by sampling the medium servers, high servers and low servers, then use those results as an estimate.

Do your own research instead of trusting the words of others, you will be happier with the results and know them to be true rather than some sort of second hand lies presented by lazy squatters.


wont work because of sharding. you would miss out on a lot of people no matter how hard you tried


Sharding is such a mess if that's true. I thought it would show only the players under your realm header. I have not tried it out maybe I can run a little test later.
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Currently, BFA is killing BFA.

I don't think WoW Classic will have enough staying power on its own if there are no changes.
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10/03/2018 04:46 PMPosted by Renim
Currently, BFA is killing BFA.

I don't think WoW Classic will have enough staying power on its own if there are no changes.


Let's see...

Nostalrius kept stacking up players over its span of 1 year and 2 months.
Vanilla has the power to retain players, and garbage retail doesn't. Hence why subs drop like flies after a month of a new expansion.

"not enough staying power" LUL.
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That link in discord really boosted your upvotes.
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Agreed. This might be an unpopular opinion but I think Blizzard should eventually create new content for classic while staying true to vanilla mechanics to keep it fresh. I'm pretty sure they did this with old school RuneScape and it turned out pretty well. If they kept a few servers locked to vanilla and a few that would receive new content, this would keep everyone happy while keeping the game fresh.
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I personally feel like a stagnant game will have more "staying power" for me. I lose a lot of interest when everything gets overhauled each expac. I want stagnant. I want familiarity. If I haven't played for a week or two, I don't want to learn the new patch or catch up.
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What is the point of a thread like this?
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10/04/2018 08:05 AMPosted by Bloodscent
What is the point of a thread like this?


What is the point of a post like this?
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10/04/2018 08:05 AMPosted by Bloodscent
What is the point of a thread like this?


To express opinion.
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10/03/2018 06:08 AMPosted by Barkamus
10/02/2018 08:32 PMPosted by Bethlen
As fun was vanilla was back in the day, I don't think its a threat to retail.

Even if you hate BfA, retail gives you access to all the expansions. That's a lot of farming and collecting people can do. There are additional races and classes. The changes that were made from classic to BfA, like them or not, were made for reasons. A lot of the playerbase doesn't want long grinds (theoretically). I'm not even sure if the majority of the playerbase hates BfA or not.

What I'm curious about is how interested people will be to clear classic content given that they can hop onto retail and solo most of it. Sure, there is a sense of accomplishment from clearing it the way it was meant to be cleared, but how many people long for that? Enough to threaten retail? I would say probably not.


This sounds like Blizz-speak. "we have so much content, so many different forms of things for people to do, such a huge world for people to run around and explore and collect things, there is something for everyone..."

Problem is none of that actually adds up to a fun, engaging experience. Classic is more fun.

Retail is like a Josh Trank movie. Has all the pieces in place to be a good movie, but for some reason it just isn't. Classic is like a Steven Spielberg movie.


That's a subjective opinion. It is difficult for me to believe that vanilla has more fun and engagement wrapped up in it than all the expansions combined.

I played in vanilla and I remember it well. I think it'll be fun to try again, but its not going to be a match for retail.
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Frankly, In my opinion one of the main reasons to bring back a classic server is because retail players will revolt if you up the difficulty or take away certain convenience features.

I don't expect those players to abandon retail for classic any time soon.