Classic vs. Shadowlands

I’ve purchased every expansion up to now. Classic is much better than retail in many ways, so my question is… if you’re enjoying classic as much or more than retail, will you buy it?

The answer for me is, no. Patch 7.3.5. ruined the game so much that I actually quit playing from that point until the release of Classic. Retail is a lost cause because of that. What’s your take?

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I had already planned on spending $60+ on any classic deal blizz would offer. However we got it for free so I got extra $$$.

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I’m thinking I’ll sit back and wait to see how it plays out, so many catch ups in retail that it won’t matter if you join late.

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Nope retail has been dead for 10-11 years. For me personally. If you still enjoy retail then I hope shadow is the best thing ever. But I will never ever go back to retail wow.

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i dont even own bfa. and to be honest i hate myself for coming back to retail after i quit the first time in wotlk cuz wotlk already was crap.
so no i wont buy shadowlands no matter what.

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I’ll probably buy it and check it out.

I played BfA for about a week and half before I realized I was bored with it. Maybe same will happen with Shadowlands, but I am going to play it and find out.

I’ll give just about anything a chance…
except ketchup on a hotdog…
frikkin gross.

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I’m taking a wait and see approach to it at this point. Been burned on every expansion since MoP, but if what I’ve heard about unpruning is true then that’s already a massive step in the right direction.

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expecting classes to still be homogenized garbage

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Anyone that does something so foul doesn’t deserve to eat the animals that died to make the hotdog.

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I gave WoD a chance and turned out I liked the end of MoP better than the xpansion I had actually paid for. They need to fix class and profession obliteration as well as PvP from what I hear.

I don’t see myself playing retail again but who knows maybe they’ll remember how to make an in-depth rpg again.

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No, I don’t plan on buying Shadowlands, especially after getting a taste of classic. An MMO isn’t just a list of checkboxes. It is an entire ecosystem.

In classic each raid introduces new crafting materials for new epics. Epics that require finding someone who has poured a tremendous amount of time into a specific profession, and gotten the pattern. You have to talk to people. There is communication, and interaction. There is an economy.

While the game is really just a series of interlinked grinds they all mesh into a seamless whole. All your friends and guildmates can be working on their own grinds. Sometimes you’ll group, but you’re working on your own long term goals.

These goals are semipermanent in classic. Or Guild Wars 2. Or ESO. Or many other games. In retail the reset button is pressed every raid tier.

Did you grind the best gear in the game during the last patch? Now it’s worthless. Hope you’ve been keeping up with your AP grind. And the time-gated rep grinds.

Want to do it all over again? None of it will matter in 3 months.

In classic, and in many other games, I feel a sense of freedom. Everything in retail is on rails, and is all about milking opportunity cost and scarcity responses in the player base.

Lots of people say that Blizzard has learned lessons from BfA, and I admire their optimism. I don’t share it. Blizzard does not possess a team of great, passionate developers who want to make something amazing.

You have a company trying to hit milestones and metrics. They’re scared that we’re not playing any more. That shows in their desire to act on perceived fan needs. But the sum total of their changes seems to be…we’ll give you most of the stuff your class had back in vanilla!

Not all of it though. Right now my priest is a priest. I might be specced shadow, or holy, or disc…but I am a priest. I can heal. I can shield. I can smite. I can mindblast. Will I be able to do all that in Shadowlands? I seriously doubt it.

I still remember losing frost shield on my fire mage in legion, and then dying because I was locked out of fire and could no longer cast my defensive. Blizzard might walk that philosophy back, but giving some of what they took away while providing nothing new simply doesn’t cut it IMO.

Especially when people 5 years ago were saying that this is EXACTLY what they were going to do. Prune abilities for several expansions. When the fan base finally quits in droves start bringing things back.

You never need to make new content again. Just keep giving them back things you took away.

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Classic has been out for less than 10 weeks. Was I still enjoying BFA after less than 10 weeks? You bet!

Will I still be enjoying Classic after a whole year? I don’t know. It would be silly to say either Yes or No. A year from now, I might be really interested in some new content, like…oh…Shadowlands?

I certainly am not going to decide NOW what I will feel like next year.

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I’m sufficiently curious about the (not-maximum-level-related) stuff they’ve said that I’ll log into Modern when they change everything, since I have this subscription which isn’t going anywhere, and no reason not to.

I’m not paying a penny for Shadowlands itself, and I’ll be very surprised if their new revamp is anything I want to play longer than a week.

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Depends how long I will be forced to play MC.

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Haven’t bought an xpac since cata, so no. None ever again. It doesn’t even matter what blizzard does, because the following cannot be rolled back

Cash shop. Too many stupid races. Pet battles. Excessive dumb mounts. Flying mounts. Cross server everything. LFR.

I could go on. It doesn’t even matter what they do. Things need to be eliminated from the game, that can’t be eliminated. Retail is a bloated, rotten, drowned corpse with it’s gut full of death-gas that can’t be removed.

Edit: if a new game were to come out tomorrow with the features listed above, I would under no circumstances play a game with 4 races of elves, 4 races of animal people, a cash shop, and pet battles, no matter how good it was. Those things are viscerally disgusting.

So I will never buy another wow xpac.

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More than likely not buying Shadowlands.

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From what I’ve heard of it? No.

There are just too many things about retail I do not like.

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LOL I love everything about this edit. In before you’re called out for furry/elf bashing

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I think you’ll find most here quit on or around cataclysm, sorry your late to the party.

If shadowlands has a return to talent tree’s, the removal of LFG/LFR, cross realming, sharding, cross zoning, and mob scaling, im all in.

Until that garbage is removed, i could never play refail.

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I’m just being honest.

I don’t have anything against elves and animal people but they’re like salt. A little bit is just enough. 1 race of elves and 1 race of animal people were perfect.

Edit: Consider this: In retail the horde is about to be like 40% elves, and 40% fox people. That’s just a sick joke.

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