Hey guys. I know there are a lot of website for mage help but, are there any good ones around still for classic? I dont want to spend the next couple months reading how to be a good mage and then find out it’s retail and does me no good.
Thanks
https://classic.wowhead.com/guides/classic-mage-pve-dps
This has some basic information, I assume it will be updated as we have more information about Classic. Old guides and private servers guides will not be relevant to Classic.
Why will vanilla guides not be relevant?
Lots of them use outdated information or didn’t know all the tricks we know about today. They weren’t written with 1.12 in mind, much less 1.13 (which is the current patch version on the beta).
Going to be the same, stack spell power, hit and crit to cap and spam icebolt.
Be frost for MC
Make food and water for everyone
leveling would be, be frost, aoe grind once you can and eat/drink after every pull
I level to 58 in vanilla as a fire mage. I destroyed most classes up to 10 levels higher than me in world pvp. I love world pvp so was thinking of levelling to 60 as fire then spec to frost for raids.
can always do that POM Pyro spec, its pretty fun as well, but all guides will tell you the same stuff
frost to aoe, pom pyro for some cool burst
all depends on your playstyle, as far as leveling goes, its vanilla/classic, their is no wrong way for the most part
That should be fine, AoE grinding is boring and too many people will be trying to compete for it anyway.
May take a bit of effort to level that way to 41, but PoM Pyro will pretty much take anyone around your level down if you can pull it off. Takes Improved Fire Blast incase they survive, so you can hopefully finish them off: https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/mage/BOQc09ACw8EA
One the reasons layering is bad, will be much easier to compete for aoe spots with a simple layer hop
I’ve heard each server will have a maximum of 3 layers, which will be removed 3 or so weeks after launch. I doubt it will be as bad as it is being made out to be.
I have had some wonky bugs with it in the Stress Test, but they have 3 months to iron them out. It is a relatively new system after all.
The “elemental” build was much more fun for PvP. Basically it involves talenting into shatter and improved scorch. You spam scorch to get the debuff stacked a few times, then you nova and fireball/fire blast/blast wave or whatever you can manage to get off that’s a fire ability
Any source on this? I have yet to see a blue confirm anything about a max layer and only time will tell on a 3 week layer ( seen them say they hope to have layering gone by phase 2 which can be 3 months or so, and that’s just a plan/hope)
I was searching for it, couldn’t find. That’s why I just said I “heard” about it.
I find that to be quite logical, though. Vanilla servers had a capacity of 3000, each layer is 3000 and they aren’t meant to be permanent. Do they expect more than 66% of each server to quit in ~3 months? Or have overcrowded servers?
Overall I’m very underwhelmed by Wowhead’s Classic Mage guides, especially the Mage leveling guide which just basically tells you to AoE level as Frost, which I found quite difficult to do because there are usually always ranged mobs around which you can’t group up. Now you can certainly AoE level if you want, but I find single target questing as Fire on a PvP server to be much more fun.
Overall the guides don’t really reflect how we actually played Vanilla. We didn’t really use consumables in MC/BWL/Ony, so they’re not essential there. The best professions are not Tailoring and Engineering (you will be broke if you pick those two, gathering professions like mining will make you money). There were no “best” specs for leveling or raiding really. There were some essential talents that you needed (like Shatter for Frost), but you were free to fill out your build beyond those however you wanted in whatever way that fit your play style and the content you wanted to do so that you didn’t end up paying a 50g respec fee all the time. I liked to PvP, so when I was Frost for raiding I always picked up Improved Counterspell, but never went deeper than that in Arcane.
Any Mage PvE Frost build that lacks Ice Block is a non-viable build and should not be followed by anyone imo.
The builds in the Wowhead guide seem to have min/maxing in mind, but no one really did this in Vanilla except the super hardcore world class progression guilds, and there is no point to being that hardcore in Classic since all the world firsts for this content have been accomplished.
All in all I guess I just find Wowhead’s guides anachronistic, and I’m not sure they will be that helpful for players new to Classic.
/rant over
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