In the end, the people who truly get this, and the people who simply don’t have time to devote tens of hours a week to “Progression” will make up the player base of Classic.
I try to get into raiding, but after a few weeks of obligatory anything, especially raiding, I feel confined, trapped.
I don’t give a rat’s a$$ about having the BiS or best gear.
I care about enjoying the game with decent people who treat me with respect, as I do them.
Retail will NEVER be that again IMO. It’s too full of unemployed no lifers whose very self image and self worth depends on their WoW toon.
I cannot and will never relate to people like that, and God help me if life ever gets so bad for me that I do.
I’d rather wipe all night with fun loving, respectful people than world first a boss with people who have made WoW their god, and serve it wholly over all else.
So,Classic is where I will stay.
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Here here!
Some people will interpret this post as “I never want to raid” but I get what OP is saying.
He likes raiding, but not as a job, an obligation.
That’s where it stops being fun for some of us, myself included. Like anything, as soon as you make it into an obligation or job, you steal the fun out of it.
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Just because you are playing doesn’t mean you are playing a game.
Games have structure, rules, measurable efficiencies, win conditions, comparable outcomes etc…
There is nothing wrong with people focusing on a game, no matter if you can relate to it or not.
Just as there is nothing wrong with you playing make believe or virtual dress up doll… but those are not games, that is just play.
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Huh? Classic raids don’t require tens of hours a week to progress through. I see your thinly veiled thread for what it is; another thread hating on people who spend more time than you playing WoW.
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and in come the no lifers to dissect every.word.you.said so they feel better.
I understand what you mean OP and feel the exact same way.
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The OP was inflammatory, his post is about insulting people. If you see it any other way, then you’re the same kind of person.
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People like different things you can’t chastise anyone for their play style
This classic.
“Progression” is like 4 hours per tier until Naxx.
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It’s a game. People get different satisfaction out of different parts of the game. Some people just want to raid and get the best gear they can. Some players like the lore and questing experience and just level characters over and over. Some players are profession completionists and want every pattern for their profession that’s available. Some people just like to roam the world as a level 30 twink and kill as many players as possible.
You know whats cool about this? It’s all intertwined. That twink needs that enchanting completionist to make his gear the best for his level. The people who raid log buy consumables from alchemists. The people that constantly level keep the lower zones alive and provide groups for new players leveling their first character.
All the things above you can sink hours of time into and get whatever satisfaction the player may be looking for. There is no wrong or right way to spend your time in this game.
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There is nothing wrong with enjoying a casual stroll through raids among friends just like there is nothing wrong with optimizing every aspect of your raiding experience for efficiency. Different strokes for different folks.
There’s no reason for either group of people to hate on each other. Classic is a game for both the Casual and the hardcore players. So is Retail honestly; I’ve been in very casual guilds that don’t give a hoot about your raiderIO or Ilvl.
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I don’t see it as such. I played vanilla - and i loved just doing my quests and trying to better myself. I remember doing the AQ war effort and getting greens from the boxes - that was fun! My old main did not even join a guild till her early 40’s, and when she did, had a heck of a lot of fun running five mans. Never even hit 60 till shortly before BC came out - I was just grinding mobs in EPL. Not all players are rushing to 60 and raiding, some are, and that’s ok. It’s ok not to also - there will be a guild and a time for all of us. IDK - just stop fussing at folks who want to play how they like, I guess…
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So OP you’re playing the game your way and I’m definitely in agreement with a lot of what you like about the game. However raiding is and always was a huge part of WoW. The difference between vanilla and classic is that players back then were interested in a roleplaying game, a full experience. As more and more people started playing (because WoW was accessible for people new to MMOs) the carrot at the end of the stick became more important than the process of getting that carrort. Hence retail evolved with everything being instant; instant travel, instant grouping, epics falling like rain, etc.
TLDR your classic experience isn’t about raiding, but the game kinda is.
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Classic isn’t about Raiding
Wrong.
Classic is about whatever I want it to be about.
I decide my path. Not you.
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The thread title should be ‘Classic isn’t only about Raiding.’
The title as it stands gives people the opportunity to claim to the contrary, that Classic is only about raiding.
It isn’t.
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While I’m with you in that I won’t be raiding, and I believe in the long term this game will survive by the casual players, those here for the leveling, story, nostalgia, or PvP.
Some people can enjoy a game for the fun of it and some need progression, the raiders will eventually get tired of hitting the progression cap, since as far as we know it will eventually end.
That being said, you can’t really tell other people what they’re opinion is, which is essentially what you’re doing. In a combative way that isn’t going to convince anyone lol. Some may still play it just for the raiding, and move one when that content is spent.
what he said. Classic raid logger FTW if I feel like it.
That’s the beauty of classic. No AP farming.
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