Whats with all these streamers claiming world firsts? Did they time travel back to 2004 or something?
Its just a joke. They are making fun of all the people claiming to be going for world first when classic is released.
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Iām sorry, even I have to agree that Blizz needs to fix something. Level 30s not only taking on Herod, but also contending with another group of elite adds as well. Yeah something is messed up with that!!!
Thereās nothing to fix. How would you suggest they fix something that isnāt broken?
Iāll agree to disagree. Iāve been playing since WoW first came out. I know stuff like that didnāt happen. But yes if you want to believe stuff like that happened, go ahead. Iām stating my opinion on experience and yes I know memories arenāt always 100% accurate, but even seeing those two videos should have showed you somethings wrong. Go ahead believe what you want.
Show me whatās wrong? Thereās nothing to ābelieveā; these videos show that the damage is correct.
I did SM Cath w/ a group of 30s (like 28-34) in less good gear and it took us like 6 hours. They spent 9 mins on Herod w/ as BIS gear as you can get and an organized team and up to 15 years of WoW experience among each of them with the exception of Asmon for sure.
The numbers match and being delusional is your choice, but that certainly does not make you correct.
I did WC at level 10 or 12 with a group of equally low players and we finished that in just under 10 hours.
Iāve also tanked Barron Geddon in an MC pug on Northdale at level 58, but I had decent FR. I didnāt have any issues with aggro and bosses were red level to me. The private servers are the place that people get their āaccurateā information from where they gave a buff to the 5 man content and probably raids too. Oh and I also tanked Library in a pug at level 30 where mobs at the end were red level. Itās not too farfetched for a premade group with voice comms, twink gear, and a good comp to clear Cathedral at level 30.
I didnāt level til later ( around AQ40) and very rarely did I see level 40ās in Cathedral. The only time I really remember seeing one is if they had been unlucky on a drop and were still trying to get it. Most of the tanks were around 36 to 38 and I donāt remember it being any great struggle.
I still think many are remembering a time before all of the talent revamps and gear revamps and thinking it stayed that way.
Most Warriors for example had moved on to RFD by 40 because plate was dropping in there.
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Agreed. My first time in WC a few days or maybe a week after launch I thought that was the hardest possible content the game could possibly offer. Took us HOURS. This time leveling in Classic I expect to go through with minimal effort.
Well the only reason I come to this conclusion is that many of the thoughts just didnāt line up with my own experience. I mean take VC, yeah we wiped, but generally we were doing that place with people 16-18 which from what Iāve seen around here is considered to be low. Same with SM where I rarely saw anyone above 38 in there. Seems like ZF was around 42-44, but that one is less memorable for me for some reason, might be because Im not a fan Trolls ![:stuck_out_tongue:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=6" ":stuck_out_tongue:")
Its not over tuned at all. Classic WoW is factually playing at the EASIEST mode possible (patch 1.12).
1.12ās better gear itemization, more powerful class abilities and more powerful make all the leveling content and the dungeons comically easy. No one is going to have a truly āHARDā time with Classic WoW so long as they have a brain of some kind in their head.
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You know having a difference of OPINION is one thing, but being called delusional for itā¦wow!
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Facts arenāt opinions. When your āopinionā runs contrary to a fact, then itās at best, misleading.
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Exactlyā¦ people clearly do not remember the difference between launch and 1.12 and post 1.12
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Provide for me the evidence that 1.12 is not accurate and I will be happy to change my opinion. As it stands plenty of videos match up damage numbers that the margin of error matches.
Additionally they are using the actual historical archive of 1.12 as the framework for Classic. The issues they are facing with bugs are coming from merging new client with old client.
You also bring up something interesting. We all know that the high level items were buffed as time went on. That was documented. But What about low level dungeon items? I wonder if that ever happened.
In before someone says, if itās not in the patch notes, it never happened lol.
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This is an excellent point worthy of discussion! I honestly canāt remember myself and the last /played I had on my old rogue main in vanilla was 156 days.
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Not like it matters, but Iām just curious. 1.12 will still be 1.12. Not unless Blizzard does low level itemization āprogressionā. LOL. I kid i kid.
I donāt know what level BiS is for tanking warriors ā¦ anyone know? Maybe we can dig something up if something has changed. Although I donāt know how weād be able to go back in time to look at that up if itās not in patch notes.
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Did you even play vanilla?
Mage blizzard bomb kiting 10+ mobs was common and not for āhighly skilled playersā.
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