I’ve not once said anything of the sort. I have only ever said I don’t see a reason these realms are needed. They’re existence doesn’t bother me in the slightest, but why would Blizzard go out of their way to make something that isn’t needed?
You’re attributing an argument and a stance to me that I have not taken myself. And for that reason, I’m leaving this thread.
I agree with you for the most part. At this point - P6 - there’s not even a reason to open up a new server just yet. Even then, it’s better to open up as few as possible fresh realms - especially if TBC is on the horizon - to prevent splitting the community as much as possible. There’s just no reason to take the risk of disabling world buffs when the option of not getting them exists.
Saying that it’s something “that isn’t needed” is dismissing a large portion of the classic wow community who may end up enjoying a server without them.
Then they can make a guild or a group that doesn’t use them, can’t they?
Of course, but what does this have to do with a separate version of the game that doesn’t have them? This is a completely different situation than a guild having the option and choosing not to get them.
Splitting the community in Classic is a very bad idea, especially with a potential TBC on the horizon, and World Buffs and raiding are one aspect of a very large game - so there’s no need to create special servers to “fix” one issue.
Heart and head buffs take very little time. Takes 5-10 min. to get to Yojamba 20 min. before the raid, and then you take a mage port to your capital city for head 15 min. before raid. People who don’t bother to take the extra 15 min. to participate are absolutely seen as lazy.
There will be people that will require these buffs. I don’t know the reason why but my guess is they want the game developers (doesn’t matter the game as I have seen similar arguments pop up in Pokémon mystery dungeon dx surrounding Purity Forest) instead of them taking away the item, buff or whatever asset they have and making the game more challenging.
The raid’s difficult is linear. You didn’t really need WBs for the previous tiers, but Naxx has a lot of fights where they’re very noticeable. A lot of DPS races and races against time in general.
Fair point, I understand that concern. I don’t like to see the player base split either but at the same time, the world buff meta sucks a lot of the fun out of the game and just saying “well if you don’t like them just don’t get them” to me is like saying “well just don’t use flying if you don’t like it” in retail for example.
you mean other than zero sapph kills without world buffs?
Lol what? You assume every guild is running a raid, is semi-hardcore or hardcore? WB are OPTIONAL, if you don’t wanna be forced to use them, then find the more common guilds in classic.
I’m not rolling on a Fresh Classic realm unless Blizzard gives me an incentive too. That means changes the least of which is how world buffs work. They should treat it like Diablo 3 seasons and shake things up every time fresh servers are released to keep it interesting. New sets of gear available from new quests at 60 would be a great start.
Blizzard shouldn’t make changes based on player base habits. Ban flasks too, while they’re at it. Plenty of guilds demand those and those actually require a bit of work to get and are more valuable.
OP isn’t asking Blizzard to ban anything. He just argues that a “no world buff” server option would be welcome by many, perhaps even the majority.
The majority? I highly doubt that. Too much stock is put into the people vocally complaining about things.
And again, Blizzard shouldn’t have to waste time on player-created issues. No one made guilds get uptight over buffs and no one is forcing anyone to be in such guilds.
Its also funny that wbuffs became kinda less important with naxx, atleast on our server. Since people wiped on trash left and right too they lost em rather early. First thing our raidleader told us was not to put so much stock into wbuffs and save consumes for bosses. People are gonna die, and they did.
Fresh with Pandaren
No changes was a joke in the first place and should never have been listened to
Would 100% support this. World buffs should be auto removed in raids. Totally cancerous mindset.
Having done all content without WB, it only makes a difference in naxx. The content is still easy without WB through AQ. But having done naxx without WB and the same fights with WB, the difference in difficulty is astounding. Sapphiron without WB is a hard fight. With world buffs, it’s a joke. Same with KT, patchwerk and loatheb. Gothik also loses any semblance of challenge with WB.