Classic Expansions

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I read an article that referenced a blizzcon panel where they touched base on future expansions for classic.

I don’t understand why people want the game to move out of classic and into other expansions. Wotlk was so much later and feels so similar to retail in a lot of ways, and its this very path that created a desire for Classic in the first place.

It seems so lazy of blizz to consider releasing expansions over again. And it seems so gullible for consumers to want that. Do you stop at Cata cuz everyone hated it?

At that point aren’t they just acknowledging that the current state of retail wow is unenjoyable, and by offering old expacs it just highlights this fact.

I know blizz wont make fresh classic content, but in that case, I think they should just let classic die out when it reaches the end of its lifespan, and not release anything other than new content.

I would like to hear some opinions on why exactly some people want Wotlk or even TBC servers.

edit clarifying that I do not want classic servers to progress into expacs like tbc and wotlk, separate servers does not bother me at all.

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I don’t understand it either. Screw those people.

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Let me start off by saying this - I started back in the day, when TBC came out. I never actually played the true VANILLA exp, besides a few pservers I ended up trying out. I played all throughout TBC and WOTLK. I quit shortly after Cata came out. I am a HUGE fan of PvP. TBC and, especially, Wotlk xpac were the absolute best PvP xpac’s, imo. Now, I have never played beyond Cata, not even the newest BFA xpac. I came back to Classic WoW solely for the nostalgic, and possible release of TBC/Wotlk xpac down the line, aspect of it. I found out this Classic Xpac came out when I was playing another game called RS when they released their, OLDSCHOOL version. It honestly was in an ad I watched on YTube. All in all, I’m sticking through the Classic Version in hopes they’ll release the next one to two xpac afterwards.

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I had a feeling that the people wanting tbc or wotlk started playing in that era.

It does make sense that those people want their own form of nostalgia that applies to them.

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I played since Vanilla and still think WOTLK was the best expansion by far.

The most important thing was that they finally went to significant lengths to make sure all the specs in the game were viable for dungeons and raids. That was the first time in the game’s history when you could legitimately contribute to a raid as any spec your class could choose.

Anyone who played a prot paladin, elemental shaman, boomkin, ret pally etc will look on WOTLK most fondly for that reason.

WOTLK also introduced variable raid difficulties which meant that a much higher percentage of raid bosses would be challenging (unlike TBC/Vanilla where the formula was basically 8 easy bosses each raid and 2 hard ones).

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I played a shaman in vanilla and I hated the changes they made in tbc and onwards. Classic is literally the only version of the game that has the shaman I want to play.

With all that class balance came at a cost, we lost the theme of classes and a lot of role play traits that made the classes and specs seem distinct, after classic classes were slowly but surely homogenized, wotlk being the first expac that really took this concept and committed to it, it’s felt that way ever since.

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You really didn’t. They just tuned them so that their abilities actually did competitive damage with other classes.

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I mean dual wielding shaman never fit the classes theme and lore.

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I’d like TBC and Wraith because they were better than classic, in practically every way, especially PvP and PvP rewards.

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No, I just feel that’s when the game hit a nice medium. It was too simple and lacked polish in vanilla, but around Cat it started to collapse under too much bloat.
TBC and WOTLK was when it was developed enough to be at peak, but before it got too fiddled with and bloated.

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Now, wait. Are you asking, “Why do people want BC or WotLK servers?” (And why “even TBC”?)

Or are you asking why people want Classic servers changed?

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…what?

That’s as valid as saying that shaman with two-handed axes and maces never fit the classes[sic] theme and lore. Except that going by Thrall, it would be more accurate to say that shaman without that Enhancement talent “don’t fit the class’s theme and lore.” The shaman you want to play is specifically defined by “no shaman dual-wield”? Really?

Now I’m just about convinced this thread amounts to declaring that anyone who wants something you don’t want is bad and wrong because they just are.

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You can take it that way, but I am referring to the theme of the enh spec.

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Uh-huh. And you have no logic for this claim, just repeated assertion that BC hurts your feelings, apparently.

shrug Hopefully, we’ll both wind up with the games we want to play.

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You are here playing Classic.

Is it so hard to understand that there are many people who prefer TBC / WotLK over vanilla?

They certainly aren’t Retail and many of us supported Classic in hopes that eventually, we would see Blizzard give us back the TBC / WotLK experiences as well.

I think it’s interesting that you talk about Shaman specifically as “dual wield doesn’t fit”, but do you know what MOST people think of when they think of a Shaman?

Bloodlust / Heroism. Shaman’s most iconic ability didn’t even exist in vanilla, it was added in TBC.

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That’s because it’s not a claim based in logic but emotion. I will admit that. I like classic better than tbc or wrath, and I agree I hope you get to play the version of the game you want to.

That’s why I asked at the end of my post to get your opinions on the matter. I’m not saying I’m right and you’re wrong.

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Not… quite…

They added some QoL changes for sure, but Wrath still retained the old talent trees which is the heart of the “golden age” of WoW. They carried it over into Cata as well, but with the world breaking and adding even MORE levels, the talent tree was starting to show it’s age.

TBC and Wrath were loved expansions. The numbers show that. Cata is where the numbers started dropping.

So yeah, Classic>TBC>Wrath>Done.

I can’t see why anyone would take issue with that.

The trick is to keep them separate and not over write them like they did before. People will still want to ONLY play Classic, so covering that with TBC would irritate people enough to quit. Blizz doesn’t want that. TBC would have to be it’s own thing, and so would Wrath.

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I would feel a lot better about It if the servers were separate and not tied into each others progression.

I don’t want to be forced to play other expacs if I want to keep playing

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I suspect that is the plan.

I think Blizz is aware people might want to only play one thing. Some people are fine playing JUST Classic, and that’s just fine.

Others like myself would like to play TBC and Wrath eventually, but we wouldn’t want to see YOU put out by destroying Classic in the process.

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I want…

PvP gear from vendors, purchasable using honor, gained from kills, awarded in battlegrounds, which are seperated into battle groups, and can be queued for anywhere.

Looking for dungeon, so I don’t have to spend what little time I have off after work doing one dungeon for 4 bars of experiance before having to log off.

Gem sockets on my pvp gear, with jewelcrafting giving the ability to use slightly better gems.

Professions giving bonuses, like when skinning gave crit, herb have a small heal, and mining gave stam.

Guild banks, nethercleft leg armor for twinks.

I’d also like talent trees, ability ranks in the spellbook that you can use lesser ranks if you choose, trainers that you still visit to learn abilities, hit rating, expertise, weapon skills.

Now, which version of the game has all of this? Well retail has done away with almost all of it, and classic has about a third of it. If only there was some sweet spot of the game that had ALL of the things I would like. O wait, there was, Burning crusade, and wraith. Now when did some of these things start to disapear? Cata. SO…that leaves a 3 or 4 year period in the games history, where the player base was at it’s peak, and where all of these features were in the game.

It’s funny when #nochanges people say I need to go back to retail, even though retail has none of what I like about the game, because they think vanilla is some golden age of the game when in reality a good chunk of the player base didn’t even start in vanilla. We started mid BC and early Wraith. The game was simply more refined and PvP was more tuned and rewarding. You didn’t have to grind out ranks for gear that wasn’t even that good. And the PvP gear you could get by…PvPing…was at least somewhat equal to raid gear.

But ya’ll wanna talk about being all ‘‘Uphill in the snow back in my day’’ and call people who want BC and Wraith retail players. lol ok.