Classic desperately needs Enchanting Vellums

Yeah yeah, I know. #nochanges and all that. But honestly, the entire enchanting profession is crap without vellums. Every other profession you can at least vendor the stuff you craft to level the profession.

Without vellums, getting anything enchanted is just too much effort for the small reward it brings. So nobody bothers getting anything enchanted until they get their preraid BIS. At present the only purpose of low level enchanting mats is to level enchanting, making them basically worthless, and that echoes throughout the entire economy.

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Or you go around to the leveling hubs and advertise your services.

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Given how much enchanters charge for some of the enchants I’ve seen, I’d say the reward is definitely worth the effort. I wouldn’t have a problem with vellums, personally, but without them, you’ll still do just fine.

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Sounds like how it was in Vanilla!

Mission accomplished!

If they had vellums I would probably level enchanting, I’m too much of a casual to make selling enchants worth my time.

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That’s the point but as well as that, it basically makes it not worthwhile buying enchants for people who aren’t enchanters. The time taken to find someone who’s online and has the pattern you want just isn’t worth it. Whereas just going to AH and searching up the enchant you want is convenient enough to have people do it.

I mean my point isn’t just that it’s bad for enchanters, it’s bad for everyone. Not only does it make buying enchants such a chore that nobody bothers, but that in turn reduces the value of anything crafted by the other professions - since they ultimately all end up either vendored or disenchanted.

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I really have to wonder, what with all of your terrible opinions of classic, why you are actually playing it.

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Some people might think the lack of vellums is a flaw in the game or that in the rush to get the game out and start making money it was released unfinished. This is far from the truth. When developing the game they considered having vellums but being the most brilliant game developers in the history of games they knew that if enchanters had vellums it would totally ruin the game because of >reasons< The lack of vellums is what makes classic perfect and a special game. When they introduced vellum in BC it ruined the game, again because of >reasons<

If you can’t understand that everything in classic is perfect you should go back to retail.

There is a perfect in game solution to this problem. When I started to level my enchanter I searched for vellum. Couldn’t find it anywhere. Asked in chat and learned it wasn’t in vanilla. I had just forgotten that over the years. So I stopped leveling my enchanter as the developers in their infinite wisdom intended for the game to be perfect.

One other thing. Post on your classic alt. When I see a classic alt I get this warm fuzzy feeling inside and most everything you post seems reasonable. Unless you’re criticizing classic or asking for changes. But when I see a retail avatar I get a sour feeling in my stomach and the bile rises into my throat. I’m so angry that I can barely hear what you say. It sounds like a frog croaking.

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Instead of Vellums, they should just let people link their Professions. It is annoying when you see competing Enchanters spam trade /yell /1 with their “LF WORK ENCHANTER, i CAN DO +1 WEAPON, +2 WEAPON, FIRERY, ICY, EARTHY, RUNNY, MOUTHY, CRUSADER, UNDYING, +2 CHEST, +10 HP BRACERS, +500 ENCHANTING”

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There may be a addon in Classic, as I believe it was there in Vanilla when I used it as an Enchanter. Someone could whisper me something like !Enchant [link bracer] to see a listing of everything I could for the linked item. Think they could also do something to see a list of all enchants I could do. I wouldn’t even know they were using my addon until they specifically asked for me to do the enchant.

It may have been a BC addon though, and I hadn’t seen advertise it yet in game. Works the same as the AH addon where someone can whisper ?[Link Item] to see the last listed price at time of scan.

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I like the idea and would allow some capitalism to take place in the AH.

#welcometonochanges

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Bro do you even Blacksmith? You wanna talk about professions that are 100% gold sinks until you get that one super rare pattern?

Blacksmithing.

Unless you’re in a position where you’re like the one person on your faction with a Lionheart/Stronghold/Titanic Leggings recipe, you’re more than likely going to be making absolutely garbage money.

What are you going to do, sell weapon chains forever? Charge your own guildmates to make the raid weapons and/or armor that need raid materials they helped get in the first place?

I consider Enchanting in the same vein as Blacksmithing. It’s helpful for the guild, not a personal profit vehicle (with exceptions like if you’re solo farming instances for raw gold, and shards happen to be worth more than the item vendor value).

If you’re really in it for the money in the end, rather than the utility, you’d be far better served just going Herbalism/Alchemy.

Alchemy is the only profession in Classic WoW that doesn’t make itself obsolete over time. Once you craft a Lionheart Helm for someone, they’ll never need to buy another. The same is not true for potions and other consumables.

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Stopped reading here.

:cactus:

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I mean the issue is it’s just not Vanilla any more. People know that you don’t need these enchants to level up with. So they aren’t going to go to any kind of effort to get them.

Maybe back the day people searched around for an enchanter to get them +1 weapon damage or something, but realistically now people will just go and grind green level mobs instead of spending that time. If you could buy the enchants from the AH, people would buy them. But they aren’t going to spend time sifting through trade chat to get them.

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If the low level materials are worthless, then what’s the problem? It should be quite cheap for you to skill up off worthless materials.

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Why do you assume I’m talking about this because it affects me personally? I don’t have any enchanter toons.

The issue is that it affects the entire economy. No demand for enchants means no demand for enchanting mats. Which means most crafting materials in the game are reduced to vendor value. It destroys trade across the board.

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This is how it worked back then. If you want vellums, you’ll have to wait until burning crusade.

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Alchemist is also the only profession that you can take full advantage of from a level 35 alt.

Herbs are also mostly better sold without alchemy.

The only real profession you should want is engineering.

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Just because they can’t be bought from the AH doesn’t mean that competitive players aren’t seeking enchants.

I personally enjoy having to track down workers for hire. It makes me feel connected to the other players of my realm.

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Spam trade chat. That’s what enchanters did in vanilla. There even was a feature in the most popular AH addon for enchanters.

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