So blizzard was smart and rolled classic access into a bfa sub to prop up the numbers for retail. I mean not many people would be willing to pay an extra 15 dollars a month to raid log 8.2 or do more world quests.
But what happens when 9.0 comes around and people playing classic have no desire to buy that expansion? They are gonna have to pull out all the stops with that expansion it might be the worst selling game of all time for blizz.
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people will still play new expansion on launch. To watch story, new zones, complain about some dumb change and classes.
I imagine that the people who will be playing exclusively Classic don’t make a huge percentage of the people that bought BfA.
It mostly takes away people like me who would come back to the game once in a while to check out the new stuff, because while it wasn’t nearly as good as Vanilla-WotLK it was okay as far as a time waster goes.
but now there will be no point, because the far more enjoyable Classic will be around.
My completely baseless theory - WoW 2 is coming, no expansion after bfa ![:sunglasses:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/sunglasses.png?v=6" ":sunglasses:")
Make it a Starcraft MMO.
Just saying Blizzard =P
whales would be too angry unless you could link your account from previous game and incur all the rewards you bought etc…
Let me play a siege tank and you will have my lifetime sub, Blizzard.
OP, there is some sick part of me that hopes Blizzard will fix Modern WoW to actually be fun anf interesting again.
Its why I purchased Legion and BFA, but after how bad BFA is snd honestly how weak Legion was I will not likely purchase any more new (modern) Blizzard games because they have demonstrated to me they dont understand how to build a fantastic game any more.
Its been said they lost touch, and I agree; they could not be further from the mark.
Unless WoW 1 characters carried over to WoW 2, I suspect WoW 2 would not be as well received as the original was. One cannot undo 10 years of mismanagement (pretty much from Cataclysm on the tone shifted), and expect the playerbase to be as fresh or open-minded as they were the first time. Doubly so if they were expected to start from scratch again.
Would love to see a WoW 2 (really I just want a better story that doesn’t include Sylvanas Windrunner’s latest plot-armor infused scheme), but I also don’t think I could justify playing it without some serious changes and promissory on the part of the Developers to ensure that the past did not repeat.
It’s one thing to do occasional redesigns or tweaks to classes to improve what they have. It’s another to drastically redo classes, every. single. expansion. Especially when it feels like the only reason they do this is to gin up character-service sales.
There really isnt a need for a WoW2, i mean BFA looks pretty good. No real complaints about combat (it’s about as good as tab target can get). I don’t see a new engine and redesign adding much to the table for the amount of effort required. Or changing the combat style to what you see in like BDO/GW2 etc… having a positive impact on people.
The reason WoW2 is needed is because, politically, it is the only way Blizzard can get away with a character wipe.
There is basically a wipe coming in 2 weeks?
All the mythic raiding or glad gear anyone got is going to be worse or on par with world quests and LFR gear lol. Why would we need a character wipe anyways not related to power level?
there is no competition with 9.0 or 8 point ANYTHING.
Its terrible, they refuse to do anything except what their math tells them whats fun instead of actually playing the game to figure out whats fun AND when approached saying “hey man, im not having much fun in retail anymore…” they respond with “OH, well, you’re not having fun? we’re sorry but the math tells us plenty of people are having a great time so why dont you just go have a great time and not think about it?”
Retail Dev’s dont play their game -at all-
And why would they? and if they did, why would they play anything but warlocks and ele shamans??? It sucks so hard XD
One - There are too many levels and it is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to make any change that will make leveling a fun and engaging experience again. A character wipe would let them reset the level cap at the same time as everyone has to level from scratch.
Two - The amount of mechanical changes that are needed to fix every single class would be tantamount to deleting the classes and making entirely new ones. At that point, it’s easier to take away everyone’s character and make them re-level than to just effectively give us max-level characters that we have no idea how to play.
Three - The constant gear resets due to overscaling are a problem, not a solution. Gear resets are nowhere near the same thing as a character wipe would be. The constant need to do stat squishes and the insane growth by tier is not a good thing, and it’s not a solution to the problem; but it would all become unnecessary with a character wipe.
gear re-sets are a terrible scourge upon Warcraft…
it completely invalidates everything and makes you grind just as hard just as long to get your best as u can set RIGHT by the time they artificially raise their catch-up mechanics to be on-par with your hard fought, hard won epics…
I know WotLK is considered in high regards by most of the people, but objectively, the mis-management started at WotLK.
Vanilla and TBC were far from being perfect, but WotLK started the homogenization, LFG, sharding, huge catch up mechanics. It was still a fantastic expansion when it comes to the lore. But otherwise, it set up the base of the WoW we have today.
This is 100%
DUNGEON FINDER
MULTIPLE RAID DIFFICULTIES
DESTRUCTURING/DEVALUING OF PROFESSIONS
it all began in Wrath…
A couple of things.
First, I can’t imagine there will be more expansions. Being level 120 is already stupidly obscene- are they going to go to 130? 125? It’s just lame at this point.
Second, if there was a WoW 2 (doubtful, as the IP likely would have leaked by now), the lesson of EverQuest v. EverQuest 2 would dictate that Blizzard not compete with its own product. It would need to shut down WoW before releasing WoW 2, or it would just split the player base and both products would have mediocre followings.
I’d disagree on LFG being a bad thing. It’s a good thing, but it definitely could of benefited from having a system like FFXIV has, where there was a Social Score which had a rewards system of it’s own for positive game-play.
Basically at the end of the dungeon you get a pop-up window that says “Who left the most positive impact on you?” Clicking on X player awards them a +1 Social point that can when high enough be used to unlock exclusive transmog looks and items that while not giving any sort of advantage in a raid are cool and look neat.
This would curtail a lot of trolling, and because it didn’t have a means for players to reduce a player’s score, you would not see people abusing it as you do the flagging of posts on these forums.