This PCGamers article confirms that addons were used to play your classes and specs and that was before the redesign for approachability and accessibility they were designed for addons. And yet, some people on here keep saying addons doesn’t play your class and yet this addons confirms that it does.
And this is why I fully support the design of midnight to make classes easier and simpler and much more streamlined than say ever before. And I like that they have acknowledged that the bloat isn’t helping the game.
I’m in favor of streamlining things. You should never need an addon to play any class. That said, addons never “played the game for you” or whatever. That was simply a lie perpetuated by content creators to rile people up and get them outraged over things that did not affect most players.
Weakauras that I built to alert me to Divine Purpose procs and to track my SOTR uptime were not and never could “play the game for me.” Doesn’t get more simple than that. If you have been scanning the tiny icons in your buff area for those procs and such… ouch? It’s none of our faults that Blizzard designed the games as they did. It was simply a great thing that we were allowed to customize our UIs. I don’t get what you don’t get about that.
still can’t track Divine Purpose procs with the cooldown manager…
Addons (weakauras) never played the game for you any more than the single button/rotation assistant or macros do. I am so tired of completely ignorant players making this claim.
The only problematic thing weakauras did was solve the occasional raid boss by giving instructions, but all other combat addons had to to die to prevent that.
Anyone who is against combat addons entirely simply does not play at a level to understand what makes them desirable in the first place. Because it isn’t to “play your class for you”. I really hate to pull this card but people who honestly think this way are straight up bad at the game. If you think it’s cheating to track something (ie your own buffs, procs, durations), it’s because you aren’t competitive enough to want to track said thing. It’s as simple as that.
Another person who doesn’t know the difference between wanting information presented to make informed decisions and wanting the game to make decisions for you.
Meanwhile the current state of the game is that in many cases you can’t make an informed decision at all because the information needed to do so isn’t being provided. That’s not giving the player more agency, it’s taking away agency.
I don’t want the game to tell me to “press button now” based on XYZ factors. But I do want to be able to see those factors so I can make an informed decision based on when / how to press my buttons. Stumbling in the dark because information needed to make decisions about my class isn’t on my screen isn’t fun.
Probably, but I think this speaks to a much broader issue of bad actors deliberately posting misinformation to generate outrage and controversy for the sole purpose of farming those sweet, sweet clicks.
The modern internet is rife with this stuff, and most of us do not seem to know that it’s happening. Worse yet, some of us adopt that lazy chase of hollow engagement and spread it to every corner.
My only complaint with addons, and this goes all the way back to 2004-2005, is that those addons provided you with raid/dungeon mechanic information and timers. I personally felt like that those sorts of addons circumvented the design intent of the content, HOWEVER and this is big, BLIZZARD allowed it, regardless of anyone’s thoughts or opinions on the topic, the “issues” with combat addons were never a game or addon author issue. It was always a Blizzard issue. WE can debate the rest of our lives over the current API changes, but Blizzard designed and gave access to the API and in doing so created a scaling issue with raid and dungeon mechanics, which has been an issue for way longer than just the past few expansions.
Should Blizzard have taken away combat addons? In my opinion yes. Should they have come up with a better way to do? Absolutely. They made a decision and for all the good that the current “combat UI” does and offers to players, it has equally as many issues. I don’t think anyone in the player base, on either side of the debate should be pointing fingers at each other and arguing over this. Instead, we should be pressuring Blizzard to improve the system they have introduced.
Are you speaking about the OP or PCGamer? Because the OP has been around the block and just genuinely enjoys that the game is worse for players he doesn’t like.
There is no automation… you still have to press buttons and use your brain.
An add-on like GSE can support a sequence-macro so that your rotation is reduced to a single button press every time, but it will only include the spells you add to the macro (or that someone else suggested). That will not include (for BM hunter) turtle, disengage, any traps to slow enemies, nor interrupts. You still have to do all those things.
An add-on like Hekili would show you icons for what buttons to press for an optimal rotation, but it would not press those buttons for you. You always have the option ignore what’s recommended because the add-on made a mistake (and it’s not pushing the buttons for you!).
Clearly PCGamer isn’t a reliable source and their writers don’t actually backup their articles with multiple verified sources.
I’m fine with Blizz providing a native rotation helper for those that absolutely refuse to download add-ons, but they should have left add-ons like Details and Hekili alone because the native versions are really, really sub-optimal (the native meter can’t even be trusted as it changes the overall result after combat has ended each time you look at a different segment… I now am forced to upload logs and look at the parsed log on Warcraft Logs because the native meter is unreliable; wrong results are worse than no meter at all).
