Class Tuning Incoming - March 12

The sad thing about MM is right now it feels better to play it with a pet than it does without (for survivability), but it takes such a big hit to it’s already mediocre damage profile to do so. It needs a rework.

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Well, in every single post I have in this thread I specifically talked about poor ST damage and you answered me trying to make it look otherwise. May I suggest rereading what you were answering to?

Oh please… Are we going to say the exact same from specs such as Fire Mage? Which is incredibly powerful on every single high-scene of the game?

You’re, at best, just being naive.

Would be great to look at blood dk aggro. The legendary does help toward that but without it feels a lot worse to hold aggro.

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Because you’re complaining about ST damage on a spec that’s not designed to do ST damage.

Do you see the irony yet?

Yet arcane is better in raid and frost just got buffed pretty heavily?

Fires main strength is mplus.

You’re coming off as a heroic raider.

Sigh I’m done with you.

Do not reflect your insecurities in me, buddy.

Where did you get this idea from? Mind you linking me the official statement from Blizzard where they point out which spec/class is for every particular scene of the game?

Keep trying.

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I love the smell of ret paladins not getting anything in the morning.

Smells like . . . well . . . nothing I guess.

Not that we needed anything :thinking:

except Fyralath :pleading_face:

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Because you can’t refute facts?

Lol I’m not a heroic raider

Do you not read your talents? Do you not understand damage profiles? As someone that has raided as a hunter in SL at a mythic level BM is the ST leaning spec and MM is the burst aoe spec

Yeah def a heroic raider :joy:

You pose no facts, just blatant stupity.

You sure sound like one. And not that there is anything wrong with managing your time up to the level you find it suitable.

Oh good, you know how to swipe a credit card! Yay

Meh, Smolderon goes down on Tuesday (hopefully :dracthyr_nod:)

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For PvP.

Genuinely curious why Demon Hunters still have Mortal Dance for the damage output they have?

Is this just an oversight or why exactly does DH have an AoE MS on basically a 6 sec cooldown?

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They nerfed Demon Hunters’ damage reduction in PvP, guessing they are still nerfing the wrong things on them as per usual. Try nerfing their defensives, they have more defensives than most classes do let alone the most powerful defensives. Their miniscule damage reduction is not making them tanky it’s the CDs and Self-healing.

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Be Blizzard. Buff an ability no one has on their bars by 12%. No one continues to use this ability.

Are they out of touch or is there some other explanation? Raid buff maybe?

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Just some supporting data:

  • FDK has the lowest win rate of all dps specs in solo shuffle (all ratings) at 45.8%.(source=wowarenalogs)

  • FDK has the lowest representation of all dps specs in solo shuffle above 2100.
    (source=Drustvar.com)

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You not understanding the facts doesn’t mean they aren’t facts.

I killed nyume 3 months ago. Want to rethink that statement?

Lol because you’re the one that doesn’t actually understand how your class works I am the one swiping a credit card? The only thing I buy is a WoW token for raid mats so I don’t have to farm them.

You can’t even make an actual argument.

GL on the tindral wall.

Mistweaver definitely needs more for PvP, but this is a very good start! My ideas: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/castweaver-ideas-for-improvement-in-pvp/1800787

While I think these changes are good and should be welcomed, more is needed for PvP:

  • Rogue: there should be no way to get both Smoke Bomb and Shadowy Duel at the same time. Make this an either-or

  • Hunter and Death Knight: give their PvP equipment more base armor and stamina

  • Feral Druid: give their PvP equipment more base armor and stamina, nerf burst and/or bleed damage a bit, maybe add some kind of Dash cooldown reset on low health or something

  • Ele/Enh Shaman: give them an ability like Zen Focus Tea that only works on self-heals so they can survive more easily

  • Resto Druid: add a short cooldown to Cyclone

  • Warrior: tone down Mortal Strike’s healing reduction a tad

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You haven’t even given numbers nor statistics and according to you, any graph is meaningless or useless for that matter. So why even bother?

You have a bunch of mythic kills in SL and that’s it, yet you speak as if you were a multi CE awarded. Bog off :credit_card: :credit_card:

You never made any. You’re just a random forum user on its high horse trying to look cool and knowledgeable.

Ty :kissing_heart:

You made a claim that Aug is out damaging Mm hunters. Then linked a graph that shows they aren’t.

Not to mention you have to look at every fight individually.

Mythic echo isn’t anything? You should probably look at achievements so you stop embarrassing yourself.

Never claimed to be a multi ce raider. It’s clear you can’t actually refute anything I say so you’re deflecting.

I could link a video of liquid Max saying BM is a single st damage profile but you’d probably claim he doesn’t have a clue either :joy:

How many mm hunters are in the top 1000 players in any bracket? Because thr only place mm hunter is good is destroying noobs in casual bgs

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Yo… Sniper shot hitting for more than what’s possible to get non-tank?? Is sniper shot % based or something?

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Don’t really bother to check other specs than MM. It’s what I really enjoy and I’m pretty good at it.

I like Max, cool guy.

Cannot refute something that was never there.

Maybe I was a wrong. The top 5% on which the graph is made may not be the real numbers. But I’m pretty sure it gives a real indicator of the current state of said spec.

What is more, popularity (pro and casual players) correlates with powerful and overturned specs. Care to tell me why MM Hunter is so abandoned by the community? I assure you, it’s not because it’s boring; the pvp scene has a tremendous amount of them playing.

I did. The relevant ones and as I said before :credit_card:

So we’re just keeping clothies tankier than plate forever? Cute.

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