Class Tuning Incoming – January 10

Make another demon hunter spec since they hate this one. It won’t feel fun or competitive. If they need feral you play enhance. If marksman gets nerfed u play survival. Feral , boomie, etc. demon hunter has 1 dps spec so now that they destroyed it and it is F tier you quit and find a new game to play or start all over and make a new class and level and be behind everyone else that had been playing the expansion for months. Great. Wish they play tested more. All the major major changes this far in says they did not test enough

Ideal wow would be reverting back to WOTLK talents/gameplay with updated content.

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No buffs for Holy Paladin in PvP? Great…

Disc needs some sort of buff before 10.0.5.
We are falling so far behind, it hurts my heart. :broken_heart:
Help disc mains retain what little sanity we have left.

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I solo PVE content a lot. Why should my play time be harder because they want to nerf something for PvP? Your comment doesn’t address the issue.

What a mess, sure glad you guys are not cooks, everything would be either frozen or burnt.

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Because if it was only meant to be nerfed for pvp then they would only nerf it in pvp

I hope you guys sit down and rework the ISH out of Devastation, and tune preservation. I hope these changes are temporary, so that you can focus on a rework. I don’t understand how you go from an interesting Preservation talent tree with cool choices and options between the style of Bronze and Green, or Hybrid to a Devastation talent tree that has Red and Blue side but at the end of the day, it focuses on a 1 Blue ability Carry… you guys need some serious help and creativity. All these Dragons in game and throughout the fantasy world and you can’t think of a Fire themed side for Red spells that can be competitive with Blue in damage? Also, Survival Hunters need some serious work as well. I don’t know who is doing it, bit I think they really need to think more on it or listen to Feedback, for once. Change MM tree too. Why they have to build for AoE and Single? Why not add the old Explosive DoT Survival range to that AoE side? The mess is going on?

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What about Arms warriors? The single target dps is below ALL of the current tanks, and even some healers. I played arms in Shdaowland and it was good, but now it’s just a reason to get kicked from raid/dungeon for low dps meanwhile you sweated and bloodied you fingers doing it.

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What about RoP? What about the entire mage tree. Mass polly, neumorus useless frost nova talents. Ice caller, Comet storm etc. I could go on and on. the majority of the class tree and frost tree are talents that are completely useless.

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If you are getting meleed by outdoor enemies as shadow, you have other things to look into. Almost anything outside should be dead long before it touches you.

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As if Assassination really needed a nerf. Outlaw is the top performing spec in PvP. Literally #1 for all class’s DPS specs.

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C’mon Devs, Arms warriors have been saying this since DF went live. It;s about time you listen.

I mean, you started the expac, nerfing Arms’s damage by over 30% in your tuning passes. It didn’t balance us. All it did was make us bottom of the barrel that struggles with even basic output.

And while the talent tree re-work will be nice in 10.0.5, you’re basically hoping that a few re-arranged talents will somehow cover make up for the damage that we are straight lacking.

FFS, you’re giving buffs to classes that don’t need it and are in good spots right now! Did a warrior take your lunch money at the Blizz Cafeteria or something and now you have an axe to grind with the whole damn class?

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any plans to do some more precise balancing within each spec?

why is every outlaw rogue going ambush build? why are those talents just an illusion of choice? it would be interesting to have a variety of options being on par with each other.

dont just balance based on the meta build, consider the hipster builds.

this game could be so interesting but they just funnel you into a lack of options, it’s sad.

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It’d be really nice if Shamans had a bit better defensive abilities to press in PvE. I feel beyond squishy any time I try to step in a higher M+ regardless of what class is healing the key. In a 19 HoV this week I astral shift the first storm, healing stream and spam healing surge the second… healing potion or die. Why is that where I am when I’m spending my entire mana bar using my hybrid class abilities at 404 ilvl and still dying?

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It would be real nice if you folks hired a hunter developer. Because its obvious you dont have one or the one doing the job has no idea what they are doing. If you have communication for other specs and none for this one it just makes it look worse. Yall know how yall made all the changes to melee because they didnt like waddling to a target. Imagine how fun it is to have 2 melee in your face for 6 rounds straight day in and day out. But yea buff warriors…

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Huh. Will admit that’s pretty interesting.

RoF does benefit from the Flurry boost. Maybe this can be used for some bursty potential!

I don’t think the Spike change is going to make me more inclined to use it.

Could this be the over arching problem that has plagued WoW since Pandaland? The staff not playing their own game to realize something is off with a certain class? Certainly not. >.>

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I can somewhat understand toning down our dmg because of the tier set and whatnot, but nerfing survivability and proc rate, whilst leaving melee as they are, is ridiculous asf.

They even nerfed Arcane mages lol. Nerf every competitive caster cause it was giving the mongo melee brains a hard time smh

Fury warriors needed a buff so not upset about that. Also a lot of casters got buffs as well .So, not sure how that equates to casters always getting nerfed. I appreciate the frost mage buff even if I don’t use use ray of frost or glacial spike ( game mechanics currently never really let you sit still long enough to use them effectively) 20% increase to frost bolt also equates into stronger shards generated from the frost bolt. not sure how much that will change things but still glad to have it.