Class Tuning Incoming – December 19

You’re just listing other specs that also don’t need to be buffed in mythic plus.

I don’t think you can look at the data and reasonably say “buff mage.”

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They are already buff… how much buffer do they need to be?

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It’s out of scope and it probably always has been. And that’s the problem, if they wanted to add a support role they needed to add it to the game, not a class. And until it could be added to the game it shouldn’t have been done at all.

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Dh is consistently 100k above frost mage and fire mage in high keys in any dungeon, It likely won’t make mage go up in any spot they were already were in, as the aoe buffs were not as big as the st buffs in any way - people simply overvaluing the mage buffs, frost especially was only around a 2% aoe buff, which will do nothing for them getting beat by other specs in m+.

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We need hulkin’ buff Night Elves! Like Murloc hulks!

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Are you kidding? In M+ frost mages are dominating, they are in like 30% of the top 100 comps

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Magma Totem is really far from a choice talent. In AoE Fire build is mandatory since is the only reliable way to spread Flame Shock. It should have a CDR talent somewhere and a higher spread count. Doing AoE is awful for ele currently. You have to master an incredibly hard rotation to pull numbers other specs get by pressing 3 buttons.

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Of course there’s nothing for Frost DKs :dracthyr_cry_animated:

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Respect, carry on then friend!

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the compounding issue with aff is how awful it is to even get their dots out and so blizz thinks buffing the backlash damage to practically one shot will make it easier to get/keep their dots up, but it wont.

the main culprit is the amount of psuedo interrupts and stops melee have and how many instant cast high damaging spells casters have. fix those 2 issues and aff will have a much better time overall.

would also be way healthier for the game if melee weren’t as oppressive as they were and casters actually had to cast. disgusting arms race because of pve zzzz

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aug dps buff pls?
maybe pres hps buff pls?

:dracthyr_nervous_animated:

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KEKW yea the 2% aoe buff gonna make frost mage insane, let’s heccing goooo!

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They all also have a mage.

But won’t have havoc after Tuesday.

My spec is dead.

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Kappa - surely dh is dead now…

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Blizz finally had something good going with it being a decent rot spec at the beginning of expac, and then steadily crapped the bed with every “rework” since.

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first buff? 8%.

second buff?

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We reading the same thing? MM buffed where?

Edit I guess you are referring to pvp my bad

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iirc they nerfed the damage of ele spenders a while ago. I don’t remember the numbers, but I am curious if this is just reverting that or if it’s a buff on top of what they were.

I don’t see how this will really help though, a bit more extra damage is nice but with how ele currently plays you only really dump your spender to get the free Lava Surge right?

I’ve been having fun with ele, but it seems like it needs some sort of retooling, maybe not a full rework. It’s weird that all you do is cast meatballs and it’s your top damage by far lol

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Yeah like Affliction AoE feels pretty good right now outside that one specific issue. Like I’d settle for even an indirect fix like buffing the talent that ramps Agony when SoC explodes (which nobody ever takes) to also extending it.

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For the kind of keys I even do?
The one with higher ilvl on the queue, or the one who shows up first.
I’m really not a meta slave.

The MM PvP buff is hilarious, just in time for me to enjoy gearing the alt I started before this announcement today.

I’ll be deleting everyone in BGs lol.