Ret is bottom 2, it’s not fine now.
P.S. I’m talking about PVE, not PVP.
They can buff PVE without buffing PVP, as can be seen from the other notes today.
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Still feels like soothe is broken AF in so many keys. I’ve seen groups skipping all the trash in the tunnel after the frog boss in BH, because of soothe, or doing some really interesting skips in BH.
Soothe probably needs to be toned down. While it doesn’t contribute damage, it certainly impacts the route the group takes, heavily.
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augmentation is a fun idea but boy did blizz make a balancing nightmare
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Someone has to be bottom 2.
Even in PvE, Ret was top 2 ST end of last season.
I imagine we’ll be seeing it in a lot of patch notes.
Still a cool idea for a spec and I’m glad they’re innovating instead of just making another spec that’s a 90 second burst cd, stun, a healy move then a defensive cd on a 60-120 second cd.
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I seriously think they’re afraid to nerf it as much as it needs to be. Because it needs HUGE nerfs, it’s still going to be 1000% required in raid and m+.
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No, it doesn’t. This obsession with the meta is becoming tiring.
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Yes, other DPS specs that for their classes have other specs that are top.
Affli and Demo can be at the bottom while Destro is at the top, exchanging.
Ret is the only DPS spec the paladin class has.
Irrelevant.
have you seen the fixed logs? and how much damage they’re actually bringing to raids and m+ while also having 100 times more utility than any other dps spec?
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The Hpally nerf is still not going to solve anything regarding why it is only taken for M+.
It would only help if they buffed the other healers or kept nerfing Hpally so that it’s almost on par with the other healers.
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Wait: I just realized you are one of the people who thinks you can get meaningful data from the all bosses aggregate chart.
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I have and nerfing something to the ground is not the answer because no matter what something else will replace it. Players are excellent at max/min everything these days and if they want to exploit, abuse and suck the fun of everything in how they play. It’s their business. Yet, it’s tiring to see balance to this level because of it.
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thing about aug is that
some specs benefit from it more than others, like PI. So do you balance around Augs and PI? Blizz does quite a bit.
People will want augs when theyre good. People will avoid augs like the plague when theyre anything but good. Augs when good dictate comps. blah blah blah
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Would love to see some dungeon nerfs to go along with these spec nerfs please.
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omg thank goodness those nerfs aren’t for pvp 
for shadow
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Nerfing is easier for them and sadly some people think healing should be even harder than it was before.
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augment needs MASSIVE NERFS you stubborn clowns not this ticky tack nonsense
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Because Blizzard is content on making us play momentum till 2024
No. >:( >:(
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It’s an average of the DPS on all bosses.
If you want to look up every fight then go ahead, Ret isn’t a top spec by any means.
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