Class Tuning Incoming – August 19

If there isn’t a void DH spec annoucement on the 19th, that dude has a loooot of explaining to do.

You really can’t be making absolute zero changes to a class during the release of a major patch unless something big is coming. The only way you can justify that is if one thinks the spec is perfect and both havoc and veng absolutely are not perfect.

What do you mean mate? We saw nerfs, well, to pvp anyway. They nerfed nether flux by 60%, fixed the bug, and didn’t revert the nerf to flux.

Just all weird. Anyway, I miss casting.

Talk about haterade.

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well ya did u really expec blizz to let outlaw do good damage for once

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Isnt the issue here that a set bonus makes the spec tolerable? Why not also include that DoT spread is miserable.

Blizzard, please fix BM hunters in raids! I am talking about the intermittent missing pet portrait which means you can’t heal your pet, command your pet in any way. Your UI shows no pet and you can’t do anything! I’ve put this also in bug fixes…please don’t make us go MM if we like this spec.

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Killing people inside multiple stuns, (rogues) bad! :frowning:
Killing people in one stun, (monks, paladins…), good! :slight_smile:
Blizz logic.

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What? I’ve literally never heard of this bug.

What!? why!? do you even play your own game dudes? this game is toast with this devs, you go to 100 - 0 on a sec without a healer and 1 - infinite, if healers are around but the problem is lifepool aparently? The problem is way to damage, the problem is there is way to much healing, the problem is that everybody have a dam defensive now days even if they already have an inmunity, the problem is to much movement imparing and/or bursting speed, the problem is that casters dont cast and melee have to many gap clousers, the problem is to many micro cc that you dont play the dam game for more than two fricking sec stray. But you wont fix any of that cos is basicaly acept the failure of the whole PVP design, and you would have modify your precious PVE in the process

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This is a pretty reasonable change especially since gearing isn’t done.

People get slot machined and this’ll be a bit more time to react. :dracthyr_love_animated: In general it’s better if the game is more than less lethal, I think. Boring when nobody dies for 8 minutes at mid mmr.

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Personally I think that healing should be reduced and make healers hit a bit harder. Also in 1v1 situations I think healers should just have their healing cut in half from the get go.

Aff gets nerfed because it was over performing on a single option boss fight. World first kill proceeds to not run a single aff lock. Maybe you should of waited more than 2 days of a season to start make tunning decisions based on normal raid bosses.

LOL

How do you think this work exactly?

Do you think we get a vote or something?

There’s a whole lot of Ret players who never went there and likely don’t care it exist at all.
You would punish an entire pan of the wow player base for the choices of 2-3 power-tripping mods, that’s beyond dumb.

Most Ret seeing such a nerf would have no idea why it’s happening.

You live in a bubble dude, your suggestion is asinine.

Dev’s don’t play into petty discord drama, it’s a business and they are supposed to act like professional.

You and the Discord mods of Ret should do some growing up.
You both care an unhealthy amount about an online game.

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Not only are the past few adjustments the laziest buffs/nerfs I’ve ever seen, but people are SICK of weekly class adjustments. It’s so hard to pick a main when Blizzard wants to change how classes feel so damn frequently.

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Totally agree. They should ignore both you and the paladin discord while giving necessary buffs and nerfs where they can.

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Can we get a fix on the graphic bugs. Opening the Transmog interface should not cause the whole game to need to refresh. If I wanted to see the white box, I would have gone into game development.

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Got some seat time with my frost mage… DOA spec. Awful damage currently. Lots of specs pumping atm. 2 set did nothing.

I’m looking at the aggregate statistics for each raid going back to the beginning of Dragonflight. In every single tier, Ret was in the top 10 DPS specs in the game. These statistics do not include healer or tank specs, it includes only the 26 DPS specializations. The results are as follows.

Vault of the Incarnates (10.0)
1: Arms Warrior
2: Beast Mastery Hunter
3: Fury Warrior
4: Assassination Rogue
5: Frost Death Knight
6: Retribution Paladin (This is you)
7-26: The rest of the DPS specializations.

Aberrus, The Shadowed Crucible (10.1)
1: Arms Warrior
2: Beast Mastery Hunter
3: Retribution Paladin (This is you)
4-26: The rest of the DPS specializations.

Amirdrassil, The Dream’s Hope (10.2)
1: Arms Warrior
2: Beast Mastery Hunter
3: Assassination Rogue
4: Fury Warrior
5: Retribution Paladin (This is you)
6-26: The rest of the DPS specializations.

Nerub-ar Palace (11.0)
1: Elemental Shaman
2: Enhancement Shaman
3: Assassination Rogue
4: Subtlety Rogue
5: Survival Hunter
6: Fire Mage
7: Outlaw Rogue
8: Marksmanship Hunter
9: Destruction Warlock
10: Retribution Paladin (This is you)
11-26: The rest of the DPS specializations.

Liberation of Undermine (11.1)
1: Devastation Evoker
2: Marksmanship Hunter
3: Destruction Warlock
4: Retribution Paladin (This is you)
5-26: The rest of the DPS specializations.

And now in the new tier, your spec is near the bottom of the DPS charts. You got two expansions of being at the top of the list, and the craziest part is you seem to be in denial about this fact. The lowest place Ret paladin has been in the logs since the beginning of Dragonflight is just outside the top third of DPS specs in the game at 10th out of 26.

You can find the sources on WarcraftLogs.

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My Ret Paladin friend has been laughing at the Paladin community for acting like clowns for the last week too. God forbid Ret be anything but top 3 dps every patch. I think they should leave them as sub-aug DPS for a season to get their turn in the dumpster like the rest of us get periodically

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Still waiting for those Dark Ranger adjustments.