What is more broken is the INTEGRITY of arena game mode. All cheaters and boosters. Try to get your transmoggies? GOOD LUCK boosters will ruin your game forever
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yes but no one is arguing otherwise unless you are
that the skill floor is high
you seem to understand the skill floor/ceiling thing so idk why this bothers you so much
a spec can have a high skill floor making it bad on the low end and a high skill ceiling making it good on the high end
the problem is that when you get at or near that ceiling, if the spec is too much, then it should be tuned
iâve also watched his stream and seen him make mistakes, not carry games, etc. my point in bringing him up was to say that anyone arguing sub is dumb because of pikaboo is just like someone arguing mage is dumb because of xaryu
people are losing to pikaboo they are losing to above average rogues that can make more than a few mistakes and it not matter
i have a rogue alt tho and when you play it right itâs almost impossible to lose
rank one sub rogues make multiple mistakes per game but donât get punished because sub is an unpunishable aids spec.
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Dalaran/Maxlol
80% winrate vs the best shufflers in the entire region LOL
Yea, Iâve had moments where I play rogue really well for my own standards and I can see how well it performs, and Iâve choked completely and got rightfully punished for it.
Still comparatively with my alt like my hunter (yes I know theyâre really strong) I can misplay my CC and still do fine because of dps.
My actual concern is that if rogue is to be nerfed, it should be done appropriately to lower the skill ceiling but also not raise the skill floor too much at the same time.
Thatâs why some of these suggestions that people make online are just flat out ridiculous.
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^ I already mentioned this
Kalvish isnât the Avatar of God.
He makes constant mistakes like other rank one players. And yet you wonât see anyone else rank 1 shuffle with 80% winrate on any other spec because sub rogue just unfairly gaps everyone.
You can continue to ignore the data it doesnât matter
U donât even play the spec to 20% of its potential. Blizzard could shadow nerf it in an hour and you wouldnât even notice
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rdru fine btw
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Why do you even care so much? Itâs obviously not so broken itâs stopping you. So obviously you are winning against sub rogues since they are all so easily climbing the ladder.
why do you?
Given that 15 of those are bigdam and 2 or 3 are askronnie, Enhance is doing even worse than I Thought.
The top 18 Enh is actually only 3 people.
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What do you mean? I donât care. I think sub rogues are fine.
thats a lot of rdruids.
you care enough to argue that you think sub rogue is fine despite them not being fine tho
Oh⊠Thatâs just cause no one loves me and I have a lot of time on my hands. Talking to you all makes me feel less alone.
But also they are fine.
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I donât think itâs participation, just garbage MMR. 
Check out https://drustvar.com/leaderboard/activity.
15236 lobbies played in the last 72 hours. Seems like a lot if you ask me. Would be curious to know how many unique players that is.
https://imgur.com/a/BekTR5v
Post on ur rogue.
Average pika subscriber and sub rogue defender btw
Here you go. Just ask. But srs though I donât watch streamers.
I still think they are fine.
Yall care to show me how to be better at SS or just gonna keep trolling me? I walked back into a 10 year break from this game into SS⊠Not sure you could get right back where you are now like that
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to be fair, youâve been trying to argue that sub rogue is fine and this kinda helps us understand why
your relative success or lack-there-of on the spec doesnât make it fine or not fine, and you would benefit more from taking the time to focus on your personal play rather than arguing about the specâs overall strength
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