So this expansion has seen a very clear shift in class changes only occurring on major .1, .2, etc patches.
The problem is the patch cycles remain so short we essentially get 2-3 weeks for “feedback” to take place and everything starts getting locked down and worse yet many classes see almost no changes at all (cough fury warrior cough)
This is not working in my opinion - a class like Fury warrior shouldn’t have most of its capstone talents dead for THE WHOLE expansion. Major patches need to be up on the PTR sooner for class feedback to take place or the process needs to be revisited to make those changes in the mid-season patches.
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Your heart is in the right place but they have all but stopped listening to feedback. As others have said, even when communities (dk, rogue, warrior) come together about various abilities or target caps etc they either don’t care or don’t listen.
I’m done testing PTR just to have input fall on deaf ears. Just my 2 copper.
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They don’t care what anyone says. A post in a PTR/Beta forum is like screaming out into the void. No matter how many voices join you - nobody’s listening.
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Like my man John Hammond said, “it’s over”.
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blizz will buff a few % on some specs after the first week raid and call it
there are specs with tons of issues being ignored
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The era of PTR cycles mattering for testing is over.
The live client is when the real testing begins.


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We’re back to Shadowlands Blizzard all over again. Even the borrowed power daily login bonus type stuff has been coming back with every .2 .5 .7 patch.
It’s insane how long the Fury tree has been in this state. Most of the time you prefer to take the generic stat nodes for 1% crit or haste instead of picking literal capstone talents. No variety. No niche for the spec to excel. Unplayable in M+.
Looks fine on raid logs and is relatively popular still, so it can’t be prioritized over the 20th Shadow Priest rework in the last 2 expansions.
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Putting changes on the PTR earlier won’t help much. Every beta and PTR cycle players provide feedback about huge spec issues and nothing gets changed. PTR seems to be just about finding bugs in raid and dungeon encounters and has nothing to do with class balance.
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Truthfully the testing population on PTR is too small to test for bugs in raids and dungeons.
So live is the testing environment for class changes and bug fixing.

