Chris Kaleiki's Comments on Community

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Its almost as if someone at the company up top never learned the ‘fool me twice’ concept, lol.
(insert something about not learning from history and so repeating it here)

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Wrath dungeons were all about the frost badges, which is the only reason raiders kept running them. And yet they got huffy about having to share a group with folks still wearing quest greens, and some did indeed make their elitism known.

Thus Recount.

Didn’t obnoxious reposting of DPS stats get so bad that Blizz essentially had to ban Recount?

Leveling in places like Feralas.

Most players already know how to play WoW. Guilds aren’t necessary except for new players or for high end content which requires coordination. If people want to be in a social guild, they can do that now.

If the devs thought that WoW would make more money with content that requires more coordination (and time and skill), they would put more in the game. But I think they know that there is a cap on how much time and effort most players will spend in the game.

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Wrath was when ilvl was the deciding factor whether you got invited to high end content or not.

Recount is still around.

Supersized ‘I’m quitting’ post!

Hey Chris, can I have your gold?

But it disappeared for quite a while.

Arguments over Recount posts were the only way you knew players were actually paying attention and not watching TV while in follow mode.

I don’t recall that.

Community is dead.

Cross realm BGs, wpvp, shards, arena, LFG, raids, etc… have made it so there can’t be community.

Oh, some guild is camping spot X and killing people, better get a group to fight them off- NOPE, WRONG!- turn off warmode, or just join another shard, problem solved.

Ninja looted something, now you have a bad rep on your server after going on a racist rant, oh no big consequences no more groups for you- NOPE, WRONG!- just join a group on another server or queue up, literally no consequence at all!

There’s no server community, and that erodes need for guild community. The problem with guilds from Blizz’s standpoint is they help each other out, and Blizz doesn’t want that- they want you to feel isolated, so that you can rely more on the most important thing to accomplish hard things- boosts, the AH- where to afford those? Buy gold from Blizz, pay them money like a mobile game because that’s what garrisons, order hall, WQs, daily/weekly lists of things to do are prepping you for.

WoW is a mobile game on PC now, it happened slowly but it did happen and the community embraced it.

Square Enix outright bans third party mods (but it’s on a don’t ask / don’t tell basis, so it’s more that being a DPS meter maid is a bannable offense) but otherwise I’ve never heard of a modern MMORPG that banned any kind of DPS meter.

One of the more popular DPS meters fell out of favor because the way it harvested data was resource intensive and could cause lag.

I mean, it is a problem.

  1. I like my guild and guilds in general, but it should never be mandatory.

  2. I don’t want to be the source of the drama.

He’s a classic Andy. Those are his opinions, but that doesn’t mean WoW would be better with it. WoW achieved a lot of success being the casual MMO. Rose colored glasses have lead to misinterpretation.

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So a dev who spent his time in classic trolling people quit the wow team and I’m supposed to care why?

Always wondered why Blizzard didn’t go with battlegroups. Even if they had created only 4-5 battlegroups for NA, that would have fostered some affinity or identity. Think NFL conferences: AFC North, South, East, West, NFC North, South, East, West.

Not really a “We should care” kind of thing, but more that he talks around the edges of the core problem that there really are just two, distinct ways to play/groups of players in MMOs. WoW’s development went the way it did, in my opinion, because the majority of players don’t belong to the group with his mindset (like how EVE Online is played).

I had another fantastic example of this last night. While waiting for Bronjahm to spawn last night, there was a mass of zombie infections unleashed and timed just right so people would miss looting him. It’s the kind of thing that makes me both marvel at the coordination and planning players have, and simultaneously shake my head that other players would go through that much planning to basically just ruin someone else’s day.

But here I am, talking about it the next morning. To them, that’s mission accomplished. They used an MMO by grouping with other players to cause drama for other players. To the victims, they just wanted another shot at the bag and had fun goofing around with their Gamon toys.

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By the sound of it there isn’t anyone leading the direction…

im glad he is fired. shadow priests are mess since legion.

At least he could make shadow priests again prio legion then get fired…but no…

How the heck is your post not yet flagged. I speak a word of the Watcher and get instant response from forum mods.

You have some amazing FORUM powers. Can you share?