Choosing Who you play with is NOT Gatekeeping

LOL all of you have ran out of good arguments and are contributing crap and I’m willing to bet some of you are on alts flaming me.

Have a good night, I’ve had enough laughs.

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That’s cool dude. My arguments, like sentence structure and the dictionary definitions of words, are incomparable to how you feel words should be used and sentences should be read.

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thats how you sound complaining all the time, i guess if you play dumb long enough ppl are just gonna have to gatekeep you out of a normal conversation

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Alright I guess I got one more in me.

I have been using logical arguments but they are falling on deaf ears because people are rather selfish and don’t care about others struggle if they themselves don’t experience it.

“If it doesn’t affect me negatively, it doesn’t matter”

That is the statement I hope all of you focus on, if nothing else.

It’s all good, at the end of the day most people will not change their viewpoints until they themselves experience what it’s like to go through things that people complain about.

People wouldn’t complain about things if they didn’t merit a complaint now would they?

Anyways, have a good one.

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They would complain, if they want RDF for easier carries but know it’s a losing argument. Or they’re like me and want it to profit off of at others expense, but are too ashamed to admit it. You’re entirely right that I don’t care about you or anyone else outside my social circle though.

But refusing to accept a definition is not a logical argument.

i dont get it tho, as a tank you can profit off without RDF, remember tbc’s attunements? that was quite proffitable

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Oh yea, I will profit either way. RDF is just convenient, and something I will be doing for character progression anyway. Killing two birds with one stone.

Also I am a druid, I am literally going to need on everything “for offspec” and vendor it, and if anyone wants to kick me then they can sit in queue for another tank again.

??? Just make ur own group dude

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hes beign gatekept by the fact that he is human and that humans need sleep which limits his ability to have a keyboard war with strangers over the internet

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Based off his definition of gatekeep, you’re actually entirely correct lol

not being invited to a group is reducing your access to the dungeon by 0%.

make your own group

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And if we all followed that definition, then all games would be gatekeeping and all players would be victims of gatekeeping - yeah NO. Back to the drawing board with that one.

except in 4 months when elitist gatekeepers have driven people off your servers, then rdf will be needed to find those current content dungeon runs.

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except when 50% of the people are denying you based on class/gear/just not a person you know… then it becomes gatekeeping. there are entire guilds doing it on atiesh in an attempt to, and i quote, “drive off the tourists”

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The way that folks have been forming groups through all of Classic has yielded a few common perceptions. This has been based off of player experience with reading the LFG chats and trying to interact with the groups that are currently being formed. In general, it feels like a large number of players are very selective in who they take in their runs.

This is the crux of it, here. I’ll never reply to someone who posts they’re looking for speed runs, or a role that I’m not suited for. However, if I’m ret and they are looking for 2 DPS, and they tell me to kill myself for being ret after I reply (this happened mostly during vanilla classic, and a bit in TBC,) then they’re in the wrong.

Also - gear requirements for normal dungeons while leveling is dumb.

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You realize if 50% of people are doing this, those same people will be in RDF. And since they’re a majority they will just vote kick the scrubs anyway.

Literally this. If you didnt play tbc and have bad gear how about you just make your own group. People who want to play with likeminded people can do so. So should you play with your own kind of people, aka people with bad gear and retail tourists.

Is it gate keeping if a group of experienced arena players don’t invite me to their group to do 3v3 arena when I have no gear/exp? N

Yes, that’s the definition and common usage of the term.

If you feel a need to invent a different term for when someone is successfully and entirely prevented from something, be our guest. But we’ve never needed such a word.

I’m honestly not sure where people are picking up such an unusual context.

It really doesn’t seem that complicated. I am guarding the gates against you joining my dungeon group. If enough people do this we would be guarding the gates from you joining any dungeon group. Thus I am gatekeeping our dungeon group, thus we are gatekeeping dungeon groups. Seems like Middle School level English.