Did I do any of that hyperbole? I ask because you called what I wrote “doomerism,” etc. Listen, hyperbole is not to be taken literally. That’s from the definition, as provided by the Oxford dictionary, upon a simple Google search.
Hyperbole is there to make a point, vent frustration, express a grievance. And no, it isn’t “crying.” It is critiquing. You, with your “doomerism,” etc., which you call critiquing, are actually using hyperbole. But you seem to mean it literally.
this is the silent majority opinion for sure. i.e., they are indifferent to RDF. Its presence is not going to make or break the game. simple as that. so people need to stop crying and get used to it. you might even find that wrath without RDF is more fun than you think
You can literally do all those things with or without RDF. My concern if they don’t implement rdf now that it won’t be implemented later. Blizzard isn’t exactly swift with fixes. Dungeon finding will be easy early on so it won’t be a big issue but if RDF is left out then we will just have the same problem we had in tbc when it took an insanely long time for Alts, new and returning players to find groups or were straight up excluded from catch up mechanics because they didn’t have the gear to get into them in the first place.
Why can’t we deal with the problem once it manifest? How can we make predictions about something we haven’t experienced? We know for sure after wrath came cata and we had RDF the whole time. RDF might be redundant at launch and implementing it later is the best compromise if necessary.
And what reason do you have to believe that any of this would make a lick of meaningful difference? The existence of DKs will mildly reduce the tank shortage and that is it. What is there to gain from “seeing what happens” when we know precisely what is going to happen?
The LFG experience will be just as awful in general, and continue to decline over time. Ultimately the game will continue to bleed because of it. New players will be turned away and current players will quit at higher rates for no return.
Definitely not the silent majority opinion. The actual silent majority opinion (of the active playerbase) is that they want RDF but won’t immediately forsake the expansion for the lack of it. If we expand that group to everyone who would play if they weren’t removing a feature that was expected to be included with Wrath Classic, both the silent and loud majority opinion would be that removing RDF is a moronic decision.
We can deal with the problem when it manifests. My argument is that blizzard has shown time and time again that they do not fix problems until it is too late. I would rather it just be implemented than for us to hope that they do implement it if the new LFG system has all the same problems as the current system (which it likely will because it is extremely similar and not really an upgrade in the slightest).
It’s actually worse than it simply not being an upgrade. Because it is not at all an upgrade it’s going to, for some non-zero length of time, fracture the playerbase between using it and the addon. Until the consensus reconsolidates their native LFG tool will degrade the LFG experience. From the position we’re currently in it would actually be preferrable that they scrap the LFG tool entirely and do nothing, though any future that doesn’t include RDF is miles behind any future that does. But if we’re going to live through a non-RDF timeline we lucked out and got the worst one! Yay…
Right, but the thing is in this instance the language did the evolving well over a decade ago at least. You’re not clearing up any confusion because no one but you is confused.
I wouldn’t dare argue against this point. I am not touting the LFG system as a good alternative I don’t even use it. I just think something like RDF being non negotiable for a player base that has embraced rmt, mage boost, store boost, is absolutely ridiculous.
I unsubbed because of boosted characters destroying bgs in tbc prepatch, missed the expansion because of it. Now I am back to play wrath and bought a boost from the discount because of the joyous journey alt incentive.
I swallowed my grievances and I didn’t run a campaign. Game went on without me. Pro RDF people may have to do the same and stop crying.
On another note I appreciate you actually making some valid points fellow gnome lock, must be the +int racial
I’m afraid I won’t be doing your work for you. You will have to seek it out for yourself. If you don’t keep up on patch notes that’s fine, but many of us do.
And yes of course you’re correct, many here do you use the new form. Which is why I’m bothering to correct it here, instead of in patch notes where it’s obvious to everyone, or in other gaming forums where there are older folk who lived through it. We’re all generally familiar with the evolution.
Yes, just like they use the “new” form of ‘cool’ as a synonym for ‘hip’ or ‘awesome’ in addition to its temperature-related meaning. What you’re saying would make a lot of sense if this were 1987.
I would extend the same compliment but apparently you only update your internal dictionary once every couple decades. Given that I have my doubts about how capable you are as a researcher when anything from more than five years ago is generally considered, at best, something you could use as a starting point for new, relevant research which you could actually use to form opinions or inform policy.
Yeah, the player base is somewhat hypocritical at times in their acceptance of certain things in game. I think the boost and cosmetic sales were a terrible addition like yourself but have learned to accept them. I just feel like the changes are constantly rolling in and generally they have some sort of monetary benefit to blizzard rather than the games health at heart.
Any changes they have made that are more so game related as opposed to profit related they havent monitored enough. I just don’t think they care enough to implement RDF down the track even when the same tbc dungeon group finding issues do become prevalent. Either that or they aren’t allowed to devote the time into it. So I feel like they should just have it in from the get go so we don’t have to try and fight for it again down the track.
Even if we stop crying for it now, we will be crying for it again when we actually need it and we won’t get it at the drop of a hat because blizzard doesn’t devote the resources needed to the classic team.
