Chekhov's Gun and Tyrande vs Sylvanas

Chekhov’s Gun is a dramatic principle that states that elements of a story that appear should be utilized and not lead the audience astray with false promises. It’s a simple concept alluding to build up and pay off. In our case, the build up is the War of Thorns, Teldrassil, The Night Warrior Transformation, The NE victory in Darkshore, killing Nathanos, and of course pursuing Sylvanas to the Shadowlands and fighting her way through and into Torghast.

With all this build-up established it would be monumentally anti-climactic to not involve Tyrande in the final battle with Sylvanas. This is just basic storytelling consistency. The gun must be fired. So my speculation is that Tyrande (and perhaps one other character, maybe Thrall) will play the part of Prince Renathal and General Draven in the upcoming raid. She will ‘guide’ the raid through the instance, assisting in encounters in much the same capacity as we’ve seen in Castle Nathria.

As for the finale, I see no logical outcome that does not end with Tyrande playing a part in Sylvanas’s demise. That is the basis of her entire motivation as a character at this point. What happens afterwards is anyone’s guess, but I am fairly confident in this outcome.

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Blizzard builds hype off false promises. It’s the core of their marketing strategy for World of Warcraft.

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Me neither, but the writing lately has been so bad that I’d expect them to just forget about Tyrande for the rest of Shadowlands. Then maybe have a small dialogue cutscene where Tyrande says that she hasn’t forgotten going into 10.0.

I’m fully expecting Blizzard to forget about Tyrande again as they did in BfA after 8.1 when she was somehow non existent in both Nazjatar and the Siege of Orgrimmar, meaning that she wasn’t part of the warcraft universe during that timespan.

An alternative to Blizzard forgetting about her would be killing her off which I’d find to be very insulting considering that she’s the only last hope of justice for Teldrassil after everything else was thrown out of the window.

I’ve been waiting for 3 years now for a resolution and a bit of justice for Teldrassil, I hope that they don’t just forget about it (again) or decide to kill off Tyrande.

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You lost Blizzard already.

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This. Her extremely short appearance in the Night Fae campaign is little more than lip service to try and keep Night Elf fans who are still playing placated. They’re not gonna let her get any actual revenge or Sylvanas or the Horde. That’s just fact. What’s more likely is they’ll come back to her long enough to either re-enact A Little Patience or just kill her off all together so they can slap Shandris in charge now that they’ve turned her into Anduin’s Number 1 fan.

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I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Last time we had evident Chekhov’s Gun was when Vol’Jin promised to “pierce Garrosh’s black heart”
They went to his chamber with literal black heart, and nothing was done about it. Even a short cutscene how Vol’Jin shoots down heart of Y’shaarj.

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Vol’jin literally lead the rebellion that ended with Garrosh’s defeat. Chekhov’s Gun doesn’t have to be literal.

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Please don’t remind me of how Shandris defended Anduin to Tyrande… I couldn’t handle that straight up OOC bs.

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Blizzard: Chekhov? Wasn’t that the guy in Star Trek? What do guns have to do with him? Oh wait! I know! We can add…phasers to the loot tables! Yeah! The players will love this!

I fully expect Tyrande to be there for the new raid. What role she plays? Who knows? Whether she gets the killing blow on Sylvanas or not, she needs to be there at the least in order to try and extract the justice she wants for Teldrassil.

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It was the driving force behind one of my friend’s, and fellow Night Elf fan, quitting Retail for good. He was massive Shandris fan since Vanilla and they used BfA to ruin her character.

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He didn’t fulfill his promise to end Garrosh tho. Yeah, he stopped him, but he didn’t kill him, he could’ve at least shoot down that heart, it would be poetic move.

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That’s already expecting a lot from Blizzard imo.

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I don’t blame him. The fact that Shandris would be like “Tyrande you were too harsh to King Anduin.” is ABSURD. Tyrande freaking saved her and raised her as her own child for 10k years… She should be backing Tyrande 100%.

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Preaching to the choir.

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I don’t know if Chekov’s Gun applies to the situation you’ve laid out here. Tyrande seeking revenge, Teldrassil, and all the rest is a setup, yes, but the payoff can go in a huge variety of directions.

Of course, arguing whether or not it counts as Chekov’s Gun is irrelevant, as Blizzard’s writing team is incompetent, and anytime they make a story decision that follows sensible writing conventions it’s just as likely to be a coincidence than not.

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We literally have Ion on record stating that for them making players angry means they care about the story and thus they were successful in telling it.

I almost quit over how Gilneans/Worgen were treated in BfA…

All our themes given to the Kul Tirans. Heritage armor feels like an afterthought. Left being homeless, AGAIN, in the streets of Stormwind. Our King just licks Anduin’s boots. Oh, and you know that one thing that makes us truly unique, the worgen curse? Yeah that sucks and needs to die out with this generation of worgen…

Thanks Blizzard.

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All? Aside from druidic stuff, what else was taken? But I agree on the rest.
Especially Genn and the curse thingy.

I made a post about how they got screwed in BfA but I will just paste the part regarding Kul Tirans:

Remember how Blizzard made Gilnean NPCs have “long coats” in-game and depicted them as wearing long coats in the comics, hearthstone, etc, and then updated Genn’s model in Legion to have a long coat, and then when heritage armors were announced Worgen players were asking to have a long coat like Genn? Blizzard be like “Weellllll… we are going to give the long coat to Kul Tirans.”

Remember how Gilneas had a dark, gothic vibe with dark forests that had monsters lurking in them while the people fight off these monsters? That whole theme and schtick that separated them from Stormwind? Blizzard was like, “Welllll… we are going to give that to the Kul Tirans too with Drustvar.”

Remember how we made Worgen “unique” druids by making them Harvest Witches who follow the “Old Ways”, but we didn’t expand on that at all and just gave them the same druid forms as Night Elves? And remember how we made the Gilneans a big part of Hallow’s End and had them be the reason for the Wicker Man practice coming to the Alliance which clearly showed that was part of the Gilnean culture? Blizzard again, “Welllll… we are giving the wicker connection and stuff to the Kul Tirans also with Drustvar, and giving them their own unique druids and expanding on the lore for their druids while giving them unique wicker forms. Sorry not Sorry.”

I know that is lame stuff to complain about, but when it was kind of what made the race and culture unique, and Blizzard just takes it away it sucks. ESPECIALLY when you top it off with them making Gilneans homeless in the streets of Stormwind. It feels like Blizzard is doing it’s hardest to erase the Gilnean identity if you ask me.

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Most of you say is true, but I wouldn’t call Drustvar Gothic, that is still strictly Gilnean/Forsaken stuff (and now vamp land in SL)

Kul’Tiran architecture ususally looks like ships turned upside down. And while I agree that long coats should be given to Worgen, but it makes sense imo that Kul’Tiras who started of as Gilnean colony has access to it too, especially when captains and other people that work on sea wear coats too.

Just my 2 cents.

Addressing racial pride is never lame. In the end when we create a character we want for its faction to have its agency. This is why I am super disinterested in neutral content, especially if it’s not forwarding in any way racial stories.

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