This thread got way darker than I thought it would.
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This thread is more entertaining than systemlands.
TNT move over because this forum knows drama.
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Just to make a full premade to farm epic BGs or even to do Wpvp is the lowest form lol. It is no fun and not even a challenge.
What is weird, why is it that tanks are the leaders of epic BGs and they are always tools. Just in general most people who play tanks in PvP are tools 
Man, this Ruin guild makes me ashamed to be alliance.
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Sounds like quality guild! 10/2041
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OP has a lot of alts in this thread, lol.
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I donât see an issue with the premading itself, I think the bragging about it is more cringe.
Imagine bragging about your premade stomping some random/uncoordinated pugs (in this case, Horde pugs).
When you hear their âArchaosâ leader droning on and on in Disc about stomping some randoms in a BG 
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Câmere Girlfriend. Iâll fun you in Ashran. Iâll fun you so good, youâll get an online FUN degree in it. Youâll uhh, youâll yeahâŠ, youâll laugh so much that uhâŠso much of that good ole Ashran chuckle funs, youâll snot a fun bubble.
Is that right? Am I doing it it right?
Is that the good times Ashran fun stuff?
Are you convinced?
Are you mildly persuaded?
Or do you need me to buy your Fun with an Amazon gift card?
Like them Twitchers do?
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Rath strat horde premades farmed AV like this back in the day as well. Now that the tables have turned, I donât see a problem with it as itâs about the only way to win Ally side epic bgs these days.
My favorite premade of all time to watch was that all Dwarf premade as they all mounted at the same time in AV. And the all dwarf premade proceeded to decimate everything in their path like an army of Carthage.
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Threads like this never cease to be worthy of making popcorn for.
EVERYONE knows the only things worthy of bragging about are your rating, or getting 500 (not an exaggeration) killing blows in a single battleground.
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Yeah, this is pretty much my thought on it too. Premade an EBG, win or whatever, who cares, itâs only like 30ish mins (or less if you leave) of someoneâs time.
But then you actually show up places and brag about it as if it were an accomplishment of skill, instead of just manipulating a system? Lol Yikes.
Edit: Ironically itâs right on the rim of being really wholesome, WoW nostalgia (arranging large-scale PVP, rivalries, etc.) but gets totally ruined (no pun intended) when that level of ego gets brought into it. One of my altâs guilds has a wargame this week Iâm excited for, for instance.
Iâm pretty sure anyone can get over 500 KBs in Classic Ashran just by not leaving.
I played with Ruin for about a year. It was very enjoyable and is well run in my opinion. The guild leader is concerned with how the wow community can benefit from the existence of Ruin.
I donated plenty of money and personal gifts while I was a member. I was never forced to donate and was given access to all Ruin participates in whether I donated 300$ that month or 5$.
My experience was that for world pvp Ruin was great and the VAST majority of the time RUIN stomped the horde. It was usually a massive team and maybe unfair but I didnât care because we were winning and I was benefiting.
I did find however that the people in RUIN were not very willing to âcarry â anyone to a high pvp level. That can be a good thing or bad and I thought it was bad so I left for the horde side and attained my desire.
Overall I think RUIN is good for Wow and I donât believe that Archaos ( the GM) is a bad guy for a second.
In closing I will say that if RUIN shows up in a zone I am in I LEAVE. My experience tells me they are basically unstoppable except in rare occasions.
Thank you
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Is that an achievement recorded in the game ?
woah waitâŠWHAT?!?
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You havenât exactly stumbled upon some kind of groundbreaking secret. That community is completely community funded. They advertise it all the time on the stream. People donate gold and money to keep it afloat. No different than any other streamer on the planet.
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Ruin Gaming has monthly expenses to keep up with?
Again, I thought this a group/community/guild not a single streamer soliciting donations from people.
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The guild leader multiboxes recruit toons on like 20 different servers and spams guild invites to people all the time. He also has multiple PCâs from what iâve heard. Itâs a huge waste of money lmao.
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Its not so much they are unwilling. More like they are UNABLE.
From my brief encounter with one of their premades their players are absolute trash who have no idea how to play their class. Even on a 1v10 you could always at least kill 1-2 of them before they killed you.
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