Charlie, my friend

It’s kinda funny, don’t you think?
" I miss old Survival "

“Just play Marksmanship, it has all of Survival old tool kit”

“I want to keep my pet, and play Marksmanship”

“Just go play Beastmastery, it’s the pet class”

I guess all that players will have left is Beastmastery.

1 Like

Luckily a ton of players like playing MM w/o pet.

4 Likes

And a ton like playing with a pet. However, as usual, the only option that matters is the one that makes you happy.

Thats what it feels like. That everything that made a hunter for the longest part of the game is being compressed into BM. Which at one time was reviled by most Raiding hunters from Vanilla to Wotlk.

The main issues players have with BM is it completely reliance on your pet. The player stands back while the pet does the work. Most don’t like the standing on the side line feel of BM.

MM has their pet but most of the damage is from the player. The pet is just support for the player. You actually feel like you’re in control.

Yup and always like that and that oh crap moment of tank going down and your growl on as MM and save the fight.

1 Like

Ah yes, vanilla hunter, the spec that played like this :

3 Likes

It was 2004 man. Also you didn’t need all the addons you need now. Dont forget when classic came out it overtook Retail for some time. Says a lot about not over complicating things. EDIT also in vanilla Brokentooth was great even as MM

Same one that doesn’t actually work on bosses ?

Which addons do you need right now ?

Or about nostalgia

2 Likes

Growl doesn’t work like a taunt on bosses just a aggro gain. I combine it with MD. Done it a bunch of times to save a fight. DBM and WA for sure never needed them until Wotlk+. Or again a world that is less stressful.

It wasn’t reviled. It wasn’t functional. You literally couldn’t play it in a raid in vanilla.

BC BM was top with the forbidden macro for some time in raids. EDIT Ravager with its pet sausage was insane damage. Also the macro was from TKSomething I dont think the website is around anymore but was able to do max speed buff without clipping a single autoshot. It was insane and hated by all none BM hunters.

So now all NON bm hunters? Just a second ago bm was reviled by all hunters in BC. Which is it? Keep in mind I’m looking at logs right now from BC to see who was playing what.

How does it save a fight when the tank dies, unless you’ve been actively spamming growl entire time to make sure that it’s 2nd on threat above all of the dps.

1 Like

I am usually top dps so not far behind the tank.

Explain the mechanic where you give your threat to your pet to save the day while doing top dps. I’m fascinated at this point.

MD…and spamming growl once one tank goes down…I have it macro in to my abilities when its a ahh crap moment and a single tank goes down. I even spam mend pet as its aggro that will be MD to my pet.

And your pet does what… like 2% of that ?
And MD is up for about 25% of the fight, so unless you’re 4x everyone dmg, the math aint addin up.

Also again, who are you playing with and what content are you doing that you are the top dps ?

1 Like

I raid when I can. Not saying some dps wont bite it before my pet gets aggro sometimes but my pet has saved the day many times. EDIT it was easier to do it when I still had Distracting Shot. I will give you that lol

It makes sense for the greater benefit of all players. If you like pets, there’s a pet spec. If you like bows, there’s a bow spec. If you like whatever tf sv is, there’s sv.

1 Like