Should I just finally bite the bullet and switch specs from Frost to Unholy? Even since Wrath I never really played Unholy. Compared to Frost it just seems kinda overwhelming. I feel like I’m lacking damage in Mythic+ trying to aim for higher keys. Any advice would be appreciated.
im just leveling but frost is super fun and got buffed you dont have to run the bos build you can use icecap now.
i tried unholy it feels to slow for me compared to frost.
Funny, I just switched from uh to frost and it’s doing better for me in m+. I’ve tried going back to uh a few times now, and it’s just kind of boring.
Dot, build wounds, burst wounds, auto attack…
Icecap has been fun, and when haste buffs proc with empowered weapon, I can overlap for 10+ seconds at times.
Both specs have their pros and cons depending on situation. Frost is great for mythic + with icecap and Frostwhelp’s indignation. I’m pulling around 40-50k sometimes 90k dps per pack but single target is meh (23-30k dps depending on pull). Unholy has crazy burst paired with army and lust on boss pulls and decent aoe damage. It all just depends on what you’re doing.
Edit: I changed from Unh to frost and I enjoy the faster-paced, no-downtime gameplay. Plus frost throws out bigger numbers (I hit a 130k cold heart today).
Honestly sounds to me like you’re not playing Unholy correctly. Unholy should do better AoE than frost.
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I switched from Unholy to Frost but quickly changed back after a few weeks of lack luster performance. My simc damage goes up like 3k just switching to unholy. This is with optimizing both specs with my current gear.
As with anything, when you dont know what your doing it can seem overwhelming but all it takes is practice.
I actually going from unholy to frost to see how I do in mythic. I did mechagon with a group and did pretty bad. I don’t know if it was just the boss fights were kinda rough for a melee toon.
Unholy is 100% the superior option for PvP.
As for PvE – specifically raids and M+ – I strongly believe you’ll be happier and be better overall with Frost. It is simple and highly effective.
In any case, I wish you the best of luck.
Yeah I’m in a similar boat. I was hitting at most 25k as frost in heroic EP… then switched to UH for fun and it was capping out at round 33k consistently, but god I hated playing it. I know a lot of it just timing and pressing the right button at the exact time, but I hate watching festering counts and tab target switching. It just feels so clunky to me.
Frost is faster, with virtually zero downtime, with some very generous windows of extremely high damage (icy citadel x 3 + pillar), yet it does seem to underperform in raw dps.
Also, I find the visuals and sound effects of frost infinitely more satisfying than UH’s. With so many active buttons you’d think UH would have more of an “oomph” to it when you press things…but instead you get some pretty lacklustre effects with bland sounds, making the whole thing rather unsatisfying (to me at least).
Frost can do tons of damage, especially in mythic+/aoe cleave fights, with Conflict & Strife (PvP essence) that makes Chill Streak baseline.
I’ve peaked @ 205k dps burst, 2.2+ million dmg in 22 secs on triple dummies running Breath. (That was with max buffs/stacks and jackpot on crits, but still crazy numbers. Average is usually 85-100k dps with minimal buff/dmg procs, crits, etc.)