Changes to Feral & Guardian!

Having talents changing our gameplay would be awesome. For example in legion 7.3 depending on your legendary you could play with blood talons mastery build with those extra instant regrowth or incarnation vers build. That would be awesome, I completely agree with having more than one viable build.

I just don’t want feral snapshoting build to dissappear due to its lack of popularity in bfa (since this expansion has some serious design problems and 90% of people going for meta builds ) .

Imo every spec should have 2 viable builds. I don’t spec them to be perfectly balanced. My utopia would be that one of those is harder to play and more rewarding on dps, but the other still being viable and in some scenarios even better. That would be awesome

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There is another thread about the difficulty of classes. Where some want more difficult playstyles to do more dps when played correctly. And chosing different talents might up complexity/difficulty and dps.

In case i didnt manage to get it across; i dont want specs to merge at all, i wanted bearform to have a active dps role in feral spec. Catform=ST dmg, bearform=aoe. That was my idea.

So my idea was not to change the playstyle of cat for feral. But what could help with having rage as resource is for when swappign between forms. At least that was my idea.

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I would love to see bear form be more dangerous! Why doesnt bear form have a self quickening buff? Bears in the wild are crazy fast! Also they’re apex predators and should do more damage! Maybe a spell like Territorial Challenge, where it does something cool. More haste. More damage. Give them more!

But I also love playing Feral and Guardian and Balance specs and Resto when I need to. I’m fine with not getting anything but would love more!

If you are talking about Haste in regards to “quickening” see:

Incarnation
Vision of Protection Essence
+Trinkets including Humming Black Dragonscale

If you are talking about Speed in regards to “quickening” see:

Stampeding Roar
Wild Charge
Overrun
+Trinkets including Humming Black Dragonscale

I feel like the biggest problem here is only PVE / PVP tuning. Not sure why we can’t have sexy bleeds and big bites, since we are soo squishy anyways…

This may be an unpopular opinion but I kind of want guardian and feral to be merged again. The hybrid playstyle of being a decent tank with the ability to swap to cat and pull decent dps was the most fun I had in this game, we were the kings of off tanking.

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The game has evolved beyond hybrid specs though. If youre a half butt tank, you won’t be brought to tank because 5 others specs can tank better. If you’re a half butt dps, you won’t be brought to do damage because 11 other classes will do better damage. The game simply does not work like that anymore.

And that saddens me. There was a certain type of magic hybrids brought to the game that helped it feel so immersive. I’m not a fan of the fast pace everything is on a timer go go go min/max playstyle they brought over from Diablo, if I wanted to play greater rifts I’d play Diablo… Actually now that I think about it, they incorporated A LOT of Diablo into WoW,
Mythic + - Diablo greater rifts
Ultra complicated layering of itemization - Diablo
Endless progression systems - Diablo
Casino like gearing system - Diablo
Lack of utility, simplified 3/4 button rotations - Diablo

Na I was talking about speed. Like Sprint should keep me in bear form. Or that Tiger’s dash ability be renamed as Bear dash or something. Bears be quick yo.