Change the Horde Please

Almost anytime the Horde is used in the story, it’s some kind of Orc this or that. Sure BfA had some Troll stuff and the Zandalari stuff was admittedly cool.

But I’m tired of Orcs, and I find MOST of thier stories honestly kind of stupid when they’re not doing warmongering, because Orcs don’t have an identity really outside of war.

And while I love the Elves, a lot of people don’t like them.

So why don’t we focus on the Tauren for a change? Games hardly ever use First Nations things, which the Tauren are, so it could be really cool to see more of them. Aside from the smaller chain we got in DF the last we saw of them was in Legion.

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It really doesn’t matter.

The Horde is evil and they do evil things.

Orcs, Tauren, doesn’t matter.

Evil is as evil does.

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Like most you’re mistaking orcs for orks.

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In the past, maybe. Now, I dont even know what they are anymore. Theyve gotten too soft.

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How so? Genuine question. Thrall was like the one Orc who wasn’t doing the warmongering and conquering in Warcraft’s RTS and story that I remember.

Then in WoW, most of the Orc story, is about being bulking brutes for war with a Barbarian like culture. That fight to secure and and resources for their people.

But without the war for the Orcs, their stories kinda stopped happening beyond Thrall.

Unless I’m mistaken.

But Tauren are still better :stuck_out_tongue:

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Said the Void elf

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Lor’themar, Sylvanas, Vol’jin, Gallywix, Lilian Voss, Rexxar, and Nathanos are all looking at you confused.

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Good luck hating the race behind the reason the faction was founded to begin with.

That’s like hating humans and playing Alliance, same thing but mirrored.

Orcs vs. Humans is the origins of Warcraft as a whole, all other races are just friends and company lol.

Well, that’s how it was until Sylvanas and elves have been getting a lot of attention, TWW is gonna be about humans and elves, dwarves, among other things.

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Orcs are the foundation of the Horde, and when it comes to the Horde, it’s about orcs. The same goes for the Alliance. I don’t think any scaly creature has any right to suggest changing the foundation of the Horde.

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Was ONLY used really in Naz’jatar. Beyond that he is barely used in game.

Died quick AF in terms of screen time. Now he’s a soon to be Loa. But we don’t see him much, or get much story with him.

We’ve not gotten much story with at all, honestly.

Was front and center for a while, yes. But there were still a LOT of Orc themes and stories going on alongside him.

Yes, but a lot of people don’t claim her as Horde stories, because she got the Villain Card. So I’m not sure if I’d count her.

She also wasn’t featured as much typically as Orcs were until Legion, and in BfA there was a lot of Orc storyline alongside hers. To give the Horde Focal points to the Orcs.

Literally some kind of Orc.

Orcs are gross. Tauren are better.

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Neither side holds the bar for morality. Genocide has been committed by both factions, on more than one occasion.

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It’s your opinion, but I wouldn’t say it means anything to me.

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I cannot disagree.

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That’s racist! (I’m a KT and I’m defending orcs lol)

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Siege of Orgrimmar.

So did Varian.

The Lost Isles, Azshara, and Battle for Azeroth.

Thank you for admitting ONCE you were wrong. It would be nice if you would admit all the other times instead of deflecting.

Sylvanas was leader of the Forsaken, who joined the Horde; therefore she is a Horde character regardless whether or not “people claim her” to be.

Half Orc, half Ogre. But what’s your point?

Ironic considering Baine has done less than everyone I mentioned and that you dismissed…

Keep troll farming I suppose. Cheers.

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Fair enough.

I just want more Tauren spotlight.

The orc I said that too, literally called me a Scaly Creature, which could be considered othering.

All is fair in terms of Love and Forumcraft when lowkey playing RP joke bits as our posters, :P.

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Orcs have been benched since like BFA. Criminally so. More orcs, you go away. Less you.

The KT should be in the Horde. The philosophy of humans and KT are completely opposite, as well as their way of life. KT are closer to us, to orcs

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We barely even get any orc stories at all nowadays? Saurfang was the last one and he was about the only orc doing things in the faction war expac of bfa.

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Kul tirans might be the only group of humans that hate orcs more than the stormwind humans

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