Challenge Mode recolours should be in Pandamonium MoP Remix

I don’t think any challenge mode drops should be released for MOP, WOD, Legion. WOD challenge modes were actually difficult and those items need to be for those who put the effort in.

Remix means you don’t get everything like the original. People are never happy enough.

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I’m actually pretty content with what’s going to be available in Remix. I wouldn’t have complained at all, however, if they added CM recolors. I just never expected them to begin with. Can’t be disappointed if you have 0 expectations.

Good thing this isn’t asking for those original sets to be put back in. It’s asking for recolors.

You didn’t even read the title. You saw “challenge mode” and instantly came here to spout your nonsense.

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who’s insulting who?? you misinterpreted my original response as some kind of clapback and then doubled down on that

lmao even when i told you that we were in agreement, you still stuck with your narrative that i had it out for you or something?

buddy i am so sorry that being corrected on something that i can personally attest to makes you interpret me as trying to sound smarter than i actually am lmfao, but that insecurity is a mirror for you to question why being told something you said wasn’t right suddenly makes it some sort of insecurity issue about intelligence?

can people not accept that they were incorrect without a shred of grace?

“Oops, i used the wrong terminology for this thing and turned it into a mountain from a molehill, but i can’t let them be right easily! gotta make them work for it!!!”

i still have zero clue why there is an hostility here

nice person right here, throwing strays at blizzard employees who do nothing but work their butts off and follow the instruction of their superiors, you’ve got class brother! everyone is stupid but you i guess!

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My post was meant to respond to one of the comments above, not the OP. Seems I haven’t figured out the reply system here.

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The funny thing here is, I’m not insecure about anything at all, and I’ve got nothing to prove. You, however, seem so hell bent on being right that you will insult others and make wild claims about them in the process. That reeks of insecurity. I’m also aware of the irony in this since I made a claim that you aren’t as smart as you think you are, but I will stand by that statement until I see proof to the contrary. I am, if nothing else, honest and straight forward.

Ah my bad.

Moniek did twice, you can read it if you still care about this matter so much

that was called tongue in cheek
why would i instantly want to pick a fight with you right off the bat lol

can we please chock it up to a misunderstanding and let it go? this is so pointless

lmfao you know absolutely nothing about me and are throwing out wild accusations about my intelligence, you know absolutely nothing about blizzard devs and are attacking their intelligence

only someone who is insecure about their own intelligence would be itching at the opportunity to diminish that of others. that’s like behaviour 101 dude

guess im nuts for thinking this entire exchange would’ve been as simple as
“oh yeah, guess they’re not remodels after all, thanks for clarification!”

silly me, forgot that any correction here is considered a personal attack that must be vehemently defended until the end of time itself

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I’ve made my point, and I’ll just let you continue to make it for me. Now I am done with this conversation. Have a good day.

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if your point was to come off as self superior and attack the intelligence of myself and the entirety of blizzard staff because you were incorrect on a feeble matter, then yeah buddy you’ve absolutely crushed it

nice job! :clap:

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“based on” is not a recolour is it. They are similar but not the same thing. The Legion order hall sets have all the good parts of the CM sets removed. The shoulders and helms are replaced with much plainer looking versions and there are no special effects.

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So changing the model isn’t a remodel.
Only high IQ posts allowed here, I see.

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model isn’t changing though. mesh/uv map/textures remain exactly the same.

taking a wheel off of a car isn’t a remodel. thats just removing something/altering it

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well aren’t you just a bundle of fun and joy

my god man, who hurt you

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So anything based on something else means it should fall in the exact same classification?

A recolor that isn’t even the full set is not a recolor. It’s objectively not a recolor if it’s using different pieces. It’s similar but different. This isn’t even pressing the fact that the Helm/Shoulders are such a massive part of a transmog that it’s absurd to say the shoulders missing is fine.

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Nobody, I just get a kick out of pointing at poorly thought out positions.

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Figured I’d attempt to educate myself on this topic a bit as it seems to be a recurring point of b̶i̶c̶k̶e̶r̶i̶n̶g̶ discussion

As I understand it, if a 3D model’s mesh isn’t actually changing, it doesn’t constitute being considered a re-model. I think some people are misinterpreting what “model” may mean from a player perspective vs. what OP is talking about. To my understanding, he’s talking about “3D model” from a background of 3D modelling, and seeing it more objectively and technically.

The players refuting his perspective seem to be viewing anything as it appears in-game as a model, and since as a wearable cosmetic, it looks different. They think “Oh, it must be a remodel then, right?”.

I looked through all of the Challenge Mode sets and their recolors, and compared them to the Class Hall Sets. I found some things. Every single Class Hall Set exists in the game exactly as the challenge mode sets (as in, there are no alterations). So in that state, they are recolors.

For the actual Class Hall variants, it seems like are no instances of “adding” or re-shaping anything. Across all of the sets, some recurring patterns appeared:

All of the sets have their “trinkets” and “embellishments” removed. Like spikes, for the Warrior and Death Knight, the branches for Druid, the Hunter’s Fox(?) shoulder is removed, and the other shoulder is just mirrored, the kegs for the Monk set, and the crystals, for the Mages, etc.

Hopefully this ends this discussion once and for all, nothing seems to be actually remodelled as OP (and their quoting of the dictionary) would define it. Because they exist as outright recolors in the game files (which have been there since Mists of Pandaria) and as the slight alterations for the Legion Class Hall sets. It stands reasonable to say that if they exists as recolors first and foremost for 2 whole expansions before being altered for the Class sets, nothing was really “remodeled” in that technical sense. However if you perceive “remodel” less technically, and more subjectively to the meaning of “it is new”, then yes. That would be a remodel. But that is also a subjective interpretation.

Going off of OP’s examples. “Remodel” would constitute an entire re-construction. This means that the Race Models were remodelled, as well as the Black Temple sets when they were remodelled from the ground up for Tomb of Sargeras in Legion (if you look closely, it doesn’t look like they share the same model shape for the gloves, boots, or anything else). This would also mean things like the several “World Revamp” model upgrades are also remodels, as well as the critters model updates that they mentioned as well, as for all of these instances, they are not just removing a piece here or there or changing the texture, but actually remaking the entire things from the ground up.

We all happy now?

I don’t think this is remotely constructive and looks intentionally inflammatory from you.

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THANK YOU.

/thread

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Nor is pedantry.


Thoroughly typical appeal to supposed maturity, why am I not at all surprised.
Up there with the ol’ snide insinuations over the length one types and condescending edits issued in the midst of a reply.
Meanwhile you literally made a wall of cope over how a model with things removed from it isn’t actually a change to the model, and baldly condescend as if that isn’t itself inflammatory.
Quality post, thank you for sharing.

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Unlike you, I’m trying to diffuse this entire debate and seem to be the only one here who actually bothered to dig a little deeper into it all.

I will gladly take the brandishing of being called pedantic if it also means taking effort to educate myself on a topic I previously didn’t know as much about.

As for you, nothing here justifies your bitter and frankly spiteful demeanor. Sad.

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