Catnip Needs to be Infinite Use

Would be great! but I’m not hoping for miracles lol

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I 100% agree but this would require time and effort they dont have to spend on classes outside priests and shaman.

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Except that feral gets much less returns and has a much more gimmicky playstyle than enhance or ret.

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Mighty Rage Potions, and Thistle Tea are in the same boat and you don’t hear them asking for infinite spammable consumables.

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They’re similar but they’re nowhere near the required impact as catnip. Especially the rage potions. Warriors need one of those, maybe, on pull and that’s it. Rogues yes but swifthistle is farmed from level 20 herbs lol… This gimmick is completely required for druid and the others it’s just “added bonus”.

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What? Without Thistle Tea you can’t maintain IEA + SnD in classic era. As in, you quite literally can not maintain it without ZG trinket + Thistle Tea rotating. It is required.

Rage Potions are mandatory on any/all parsing once every 30 minutes - why would you voluntarily not have 120-160 attack power with Recklessness or Deathwish? 60 strength for 20 seconds + a full rage bar is just as important as Catnip is.

Catnip is a meme gimmick, just as Feral. Despite Blizzard’s utmost attempts to try to mandate meme kitty into existence by giving it mandatory alliance raid invites due to Windfury, and giving it the single strongest on-use effect in game (MCP) for free … you want… more? free? ontop of your already irreplaceable/non replicated utility in MOTW/Brez/Innervate/LOTP? Woof. Talk about winning the lottery and still pretending to be poor.

Have you considered that your logic of “nowhere near as required” applies to memekittynip as well? That maybe your consumables to do more dps should come with an incumbent cost - instead of all being free, spammable, and have no cost occurrence?

It’s 40 silver per. By the time you’re 60, it will cost less than 1/10th of your food buff per fight… And at that point, will still cost drastically less than every other classes temporary functional CD consumable (mana pot, mighty rage, dark rune, thistle tea, arrows) per boss.

This is SOD. They can maintain both no problem.

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i mean at that point, just give them 3 minute hast cd as rune

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If you’re optimizing fun out of a game, are you really playing the game correctly?

:woman_shrugging:

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Yes once per half hour. This is once per 3 minutes. It’s still not mandatory. Warrior still does damage without doing any of that. Ferlawl does not.

You’re exactly right that ferlawl is a joke only for support abilities without catnip, thank you for driving home the entire point of the thread and why something that’s REQUIRED, not gravy on top like everything else you mentioned, should be baked in and free. This isn’t even about like top 5% parsing lol, this is about going from green/grey parses to purple/orange AND, heaven forbid, being competitive with other DPS.

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or just bake it into berserk.

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sure , I am sure im getting feral spirits so I am chilling.

In relation to the topic at hand, I am a person that plays way more for fun and will do off-meta janky stuff in wow, dnd, warhammer etc. Rule of cool beats all. All that said, even I feel like it’s borderline necessary.

That said, it’s in the game, and will be used by most ferals. Blizz clearly took a few throwback hurdles/inconveniences out, but I find it odd that they kept one such as this in.

I’m never going to let the meta keep me from having fun haha.

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I feel like there are many trade offs that have been considered and made, and this is where we’ve landed. There is no solution, change or not that everyone will be happy with, so obviously there are going to be people complaining no matter what.

Having said that, feral druids historically would be farming MCPs in Gnomer. We don’thave MCPs right now, but we do have ACP, which I suppose you could use instead of Catnip, if you’d rather not use catnip.

Is 9g a lot to farm for someone who cares even a little about their parses in P3 and beyond? I think that’s a question worth looking at as well, but yeah…

If it turns out that the cost of Catnip is too much, I suspect we’ll see adjustments later. If it doesn’t, well…

:woman_shrugging:

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enhancement shaman

Spent 80g on pretty standard consumables for ST today, couldn’t imagine having to worry about catnip, I’ll just get crack from orcs in exchange for windfury like a normal person.

Sigh, yes, it’s where they decided to go-- but in a fresh take on classic, where the world was their oyster, I feel like they’re keeping something that was inconvenient, at best, alive for a reason I don’t understand. And that’s ok! I just don’t agree with it.

Trihugger is right, and Popora has made great observations as well. I kinda suspect devs in OG WoW didn’t expect people to farm MCPs in Gnomer back in the day, let alone have that legacy live on 20 years later, haha!

Feral definitely feels like they have one too many gimmicks running right now-- optimized or not. In my opinion, they should have cleaned it up a smidge and not thrown gold/silver into the mix.

Ah well, c’est la vie.

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What are you talking about ? Feral is very strong right now

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Meanwhile hunters have to pay silver just to attack anything as marksman.

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Hold my beer.

Sure. Lets do that. But only if we give rogues wind fury and make thistle tea an infinite use item that only triggers a cooldown without deleting the item.

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