Cataclysm vs Wrath Era --- A Compromise

Do you have any real numbers to show they will lose money? You are really just making assumptions, aren’t you?

Leaving era servers, may actually keep more players. I (for one) may dabble with cata, occasionally. But, no wrath era means no subs ( for me). I only have 2 accounts, tho. The question is, how many players (and how many accounts that actually is) are willing to walk away? Something no one really knows…yet.

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Do you have any real numbers to show they will make money? We’re all just making assumptions, our best guess based on what little data we have.

I never said they would make money, you did say they would lose money. However, every player that takes their one (or more) accounts and walks…that is a loss. So, I would say they will lose money if they don’t keep an era server. How much, depends on how many walk away. Figure 15 or 20 dollars per account, depending on tokens use or not. Simple math really. How many walk before cata drops and how many in a month or month and a half into cata, is the question. Wrath era is a safety net to keep subs. People who liked wotlk, probably are not looking to go back to vanilla. They will just save their money and bring PS back up from the ashes.

Requires little dev time, so not an excuse. I am sure they own their own servers, renting them is not that expensive, anyway. Splitting the player base (can that be said with a straight face), certainly looks hypocritical. Really, no reason not to leave era, other than being stubborn.

Exactly, that’s the question. And neither of us have any data to back up our guess as to what will happen. Were you here during phase 2 of vanilla classic? Were you here during the fight for rdf? I look at the huge outcry over these issues on the forums and compare it to the relatively small outcry for wrath era and make an educated guess that there’s not very many who will quit over this.

What do you base that opinion on? Most of the people asking for wrath era posting here have said they won’t play cata but they are or plan to play SoD or other vanilla era versions.

You make the assumption that Activision/Blizzard makes decisions on emotions, for some unknown reason they’re just stubborn. I make the assumption that they make them on a market analysis. What ever you or I might think of the creative team’s work on their games A/B is a hugely profitable company. I think their marketing team is competent. Neither of us know what it costs to maintain wrath era servers nor do we know how many subs will be lost if there isn’t one. But I think they aren’t idiots and there are profit motivated reasons they refused to add them.

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A reasonable way to do something that would make lots of people happy :slight_smile:

I think a better compromise would have made changes to Cataclysm to make it more palatable for classic players.

Not sure you can bargain aside from the nuclear option of going to a private server or sticking to sod until cata has lived its short life as the mop waiting room. Frankly though mop would be a good endpoint from which to examine how to revisit earlier expansions.

The best bargain will happen I believe more naturally and it will be after the quick decline of cata that might be a really good time for them to redo wrath even if it is fresh wrath. Not during the pre-cata limbo where everyone is expecting a downturn and holding onto their gold to just use the cata tokens to support their sub or are waiting for legion and/or mop.

We did get vanilla servers but I mean while there is a case for them vanilla had a strange place as most maliable server. Wrath and tbc not as much as they are defined by the raids. But I have a strange feeling that the playerbase will find something to do in cata given the tedious nature of the raids and the rampart gold buying such raids might promote. And that thing will be really fun, not sure what it might be though.

I honestly think there should just be a couple permanent wrath classic realms available. That would work best.

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