Cataclysm Shadow

Do you basically ignore mind spike in PvE as shadow? Feels like it’s definitely more dps to just pop 3 orbs with a mind blast, reapply dots to snapshot the buff and flay as much as possible. Rather than casting mind spike(s) for any reason.

Maybe it’s ok for some quick swaps/burst? But you still need 3 gcds before you get the big instant mb.

You do indeed ignore it for the most part. It’s technically better on VERY short lived mobs than applying dots but for now it’s mostly worse.

Once you have dragon soul 4set it becomes pretty integral to your opener / burst in CDs because you’ll have an excess of shadow orb stacks to pop.

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Cheers! Thank you for the info.

I didn’t raid much in the initial launch raids back in Cata, so I can’t really think of situations where Mind Spike is good to use.

But I really started raiding in a solid 10 man group when Firelands released and there are moments in those fights where Mind Spike was extremely useful.

Shannox fight = On rage face when he is face raging someone as you need to hit him hard quick where dots just won’t cut it.
Spider boss = on the tiny and elite spiders that spawn mid fight.
Bird fight = adds on ground when not in air… but I was a flyer so I can’t recall the ground stuff much.

Can’t recall other key moments prior to getting Dragon Soul 4 set.

But you can find plenty of uses in dungeons and PvP and of course questing.

The only key thing to keep in mind is just knowing or have a good idea of how long something will live for and if it’s less than 15 seconds then it’s a Mind Spike worthy target.

Edit:
Weird, it somehow double posted my post lol.

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