Cataclysm Classic

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Watching BlizzCon and the many new exciting reveals for World of Warcraft is a huge boon for the title as a whole, but we all know that’s not why you clicked on this thread.

Truthfully, as someone who has experienced the game progress and age from 2004 and onward, I can say with certainty, the reveal of Cataclysm left me with the same disdain as it did when it was originally revealed. I get it, some people may want to experience it for what it was, and now they have the ability to do so, and to those who are excited for it, power to you, I hope you enjoy, because there are a lot of great things that came out of Cataclysm.

I find it incredibly difficult to resonate with Cataclysm because it isn’t in line with what made Classic “Classic”, if that makes any sense. I still enjoy retail to an extent, but for different reasons as to why I play Classic, and I enjoy them for different reasons. Although ultimately my preferred era would be Vanilla, and everyone has different tastes, which is perfectly acceptable.

Although life and real-life obligations did not allow me to play Vanilla Classic or Season of Mastery when they initially made their respective debuts, I was hoping for a new fresh Vanilla server to be honest, but I understand why they are apprehensive at this time with Season of Discovery around the corner, which albeit could be extremely fun and interesting, and I have full plans on playing it, I still think my interests will remain in-line with Vanilla Era predominantly.

That said, I am hoping that Blizzard takes a hard look at the future of Classic, since now we’ve sort have cemented that there is a high possibility we will be getting more expansions, but I am also hoping for the rest of the player-base, we could see more of refresh of Vanilla Era, a new progression server (akin to the likes of Everquest where you continuously move throughout the expansions, if you are unfamiliar), and maybe a TBC server if there’s enough interest.

One thing I am not going to budge on is that Wrath Classic should remain. I have not personally heard anything about the certainty of it’s future, but one thing is for certain, forcing players to move from Wrath to Cataclysm will create a lot of problems. This should be completely opt-in, very similar to Vanilla to TBC.

Just my two cents.

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Me too, friend. Me too :expressionless:

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Well there is sod which is fresh as alot of servers are fresh. But while it might be good it might just be the beta for classic plus. But it has been said the people excited for cata are those who have not played cata or those who want mop.

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Isn’t this a fairly common perspective? I suppose some clarity on what is meant by “onward” here could show some of the greater diversity among WoW players, though of course some started playing in TBC and Wrath, and some even after… I feel like significant numbers of the playerbase have been playing (off and on) since launch, or like me, since Beta (I didn’t play end-game during Vanilla, but have played at least some end-game in each expansion, and have played end-game in all of Classic so far).

Sure it is. Time/nostalgia, and really the name “Classic” are what have made “Classic.” If Blizzard launched Cataclysm Classic, then it’s perfectly in-line with what has made the classic series thus far, provided they launch with (mostly) the talent progression that they end with, with some changes here and there to accommodate the “modern Classic” gamer.

While I don’t claim any personal interest in playing a forever Wrath Classic realm, something I have always thought (much before the Classic series was even something people started asking for) was that they should have a progression path so that at any time in time one can roll a new character, and play through each set of game content as it was then, before moving on.

Thanks for sharing interesting ideas and perspectives!

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It doesn’t.

Classic is just the term Blizzard uses to denote re-releases of Vanilla WoW and the expansions that followed it.

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Lets all be honest here.
When classic tbc launched. players left and right said “Hey I wander if they will release MoP to”.
Not once since era and up did I read anyone say “man can’t wait till cata releases” until this blizzcon.
These players pushing for cata only do so to get to MoP.

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Agreed. I started seeing the MoP requests right when tbcc was released, the desire for Cata was recent.

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In order for there to be a mop there will prob need to be cata. Not sure the kung-fu-pandas lovers will stick around for cata after getting level 85, might be vested in cata failure once it does drop but are saying they want it up until it drops.

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I think if anti cata people have proved anything it’s just that they want the entire game to revolve around them and their opinions matter more. I NEVER hear an original opinion that makes sound sense to a MMO and ultimately the only thing I can’t really defend is some people really didn’t like the lore which sure you got me there idk anything about it beyond skimming quest text and watching cutscenes to that point it’s great for me. Otherwise it’s all the same exact stuff people said it was too hard then it’s too easy and LFR ruined wow somehow?? Content made for literally JUST casual players but somehow you aren’t casuals and 99% of yall bring up LFR instantly. When cata came out I never heard anything bad about it content creators were popping off especially PvP ( my preferred content) but even the raids were awesome I feel like someone somewhere just said they miss wrath ( literally everybody misses something about a previous expansion) and way too many wrath fanatics just went off on cata and are holding on to that for dear life a decade later.

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You could say this same thing about Wrath.

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I wonder how many people would actually sit and play only in wrath era servers. I highly doubt tbc and wrath would be that popular, but who knows.

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if im being honest if they ever decide to release MoP classic, they should either make a seperate set of realms instead of replacing cata or they should make every classic expansion available to give the people options so they can play what they really want. this may be a hot take but if they r gonna start releasing every expansion once they hit their “classic” age, classic as far as expansions go might start to fall off cuz it gets kinda iffy after MoP. Cata may be iffy for a lot of people but me personally i didnt mind it at all and i would hate to see it replaced if they do MoP classic and so on

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and i do understand that it would be hard to keep a classic expansion around after it has had its time but lets be honest, there will come a time where letting people choose which expansion they wanna play will be needed cuz classic wont last forever so maybe giving people options even tho nothing new will be done with the expansions will be a good thing to do, just purily for the nostalgia that we all crave. i think just having all the expansions around would keep people happy as long as they can play what they want

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pvp all the way

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Hard disagree, I’m looking forward to cata, quit whining about wanting to play the same game, which is literally already available, over and over and over. Totally bottom feeder mentality

BUT the idea of TBC server being permanent, does make sense. As well as Wrath!

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The xpac is DOA. Blizzard won’t release numbers but we all know it’s going to tank

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There’s always the question of where to go next. You can only create so many servers of one release before the people who play that genre get spread thin. Then what, do you start canceling the old ones? Merging the old ones?

If you are going to move forward do you continue the old path, cat to panda to WoD to Legion, etc? Or do you go off in a new direction?

If it is a new direction should the interface change to the modern day interface or should it stay back at vanillia?

Question is, what do people want?

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which releases are you playing?

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The past five years has certainly been a worthwhile experiment to prove that we really thought we knew what we wanted, but we really didn’t.

No one can agree on what Classic needs to thrive, to be better. Some want Classic Vanilla to stay the main; people wanted Burning Crusade as soon as Classic launched, others were waiting until Wrath. Many wanted an entirely different game altogether. Now because Blizzard sees that the Classic formula is working they’re insisting that Cataclysm was needed to keep it going.

Nobody at Blizzard is realizing that Cataclysm was the whole entire reason people started demanding classic server options to begin with, because many folks remained nostalgia-filled for the pre-expansion world. They’re just seeing dollar signs out of this. How anyone is surprised by this really have not been paying any attention.

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Wrong forums.