Cata Classic is Classic WoW by definition of Blizzard. Blizzard’s definition of what is Classic is the only one that matters. just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it any less Classic.
also i can still play 99% of the original TBC and Wrath content on retail, does that make them any less Classic?
It isnt subjective.
Classic is just old xpacs being replayable. Thats all we asked for before 2019 happened and its all we ever wanted. Only AFTER blizzard did it was there yuge brained people on the forum making up their own headcannon on what classic is or asking for classic+.
Blizzard doing classic was a response to people playing these old xpacs on pservers, nothing changed just replaying like Nostalrius that had over a million accounts. It was a huge market of players blizzard lost that they wanted back.
Objective reality is classic was just a phrase for replaying the old xpacs we miss because we no longer enjoy retail wow. Where you hop off on that ride is entirely up to the individual.
But the point I’m trying to make (as I believe others are, but I can’t really speak for them) is why should we have to get off the ride at all? If I want to play Wrath Classic for 10 years then shouldn’t I have the option to do so? I think the original intent of the Classic movement was to allow people to play the older versions of the game that they enjoyed. NOT to restart the treadmill and run through it again.
I want to play Wrath… I want to level one of every class from 1-80 and pick and choose what end game content I want to do with those toons. I can tell you for sure that 2 years isn’t long enough to do all of that since I couldn’t manage it the first time around. Maybe I’d eventually get bored of it, who knows, but I’d like to have the chance. And I’m sure Blizzard would want my sub money while I figure it out.
Well this was the intent of Blizzard from the beginning, as soon as they decided to do Classic. They saw the money come in and kept rolling with the expansions as a complete replay through. They tried to keep a Classic Era server up because we begged for it when TBC was announced and it failed miserably. That was their test of keeping Era servers for coming expansion and since it failed, they ruled out Era servers for future classic expansions. They listened to the Vocal few begging for Era, caved in and did it, then realized it wasn’t worth their time. I think it would be pretty hard to convince them to try it again since they trusted the community begging for Era once and it was a complete let down on the community’s part.
Yeah in my perfect world id be able to que arena in tbc / wotlk / cata / mop and hop between each whenever I wanted. The playerbase doesn’t exist for it. I didn’t like wotlk as a pvper for many reasons, I played it waiting on cata + mop. Then those will be gone and maybe down the line blizzard will have some a la carte version of classic like that, but thats not the path classic took. Yet.
Then stop playing.
Every expansion was retail at one point.
Ugh… this again? How many people going to keep saying the same ol tiring thing of “Cataclysm isnt classic”.
Its obvious if you actually juggle between retail and cata classic frequently that Cataclysm does NOT play or feel like retail.
Yep. Classic doesn’t know of the joy that is barrage hunter.
Yet. They learn the joys of that in mop iirc.
10/10 hunters who use barrage will say they know how to use it right.
1/10…Maybe actually do.
On retail hunter I never even put this on the bar. Quickest way to pull massive mobs ever. Tanks love it sooooo much. Not really.
Cataclysm Classic is just a gimped version of retail. There is no point in playing this garbage game version classic anymore because it has nothing to do with original wow, and everyone that legitimately played vanilla extensively prior to 2019 release actually wanted permanent vanilla, and not the versions that came after it. However it was a total failure anyway due to masochistic players forcing min max culture that is present to this day. It’s absolutely disgusting, end game content mastered 14 years ago shouldn’t be min maxed, but enjoyed. In general, the entire point was to enjoy but players turned everything into some kind of cucked competition despite all the content being faceroll compared to the past 99999999999 expansions of retail.
It’s inevitable for even the biggest unaware derelict to see that classic players do not like anything to be easy, but blizzard is making everything progressively easier so it’s pretty counterintuitive. Just look at the conquest and honor changes and gold buffs etc. It’s clearly just a mini game of retail at this point, and we don’t need two retails. If I wanted mass cognitive dissonance, I’d go do stuff in real life. But what you’re really seeing is a continuum and everlasting proof that the average wow player cannot even do a single actual
high level task in this game.
Tldr: cata classic is a bunch of sad nerds tryharding an easy game and deluding themselves it’s hard because it’s grindy (like all of classic)
Every version from tbc onwards is basically that, some are better - others are worse, but all of the expansions are one form of retail or another.
Blizzard called it classic, but its classic-retail not vanilla.
I think most of us are playing cata just because we had fun years ago and want to replay it. It’s the same reason I replayed morrowind a decade after I played it and replayed a dozen other games I liked some years later.
Classic is simply the re-release of the old expansions released, with minor changes, in the original sequence. Retail is the most recent expansion release with the previous expansions available to be played with the current talents and spells.
Also some are here to see it first time as it was. I came to wow right before bfa. So even tol barad is new to me.
Also some may like wow. just not the retail version of it. Till ion and crew get their head out their butt, classic has been a nice place for me.
Leave. Nobody will miss you , and nobody cares to prop up your point of view. Go play something that makes you happy and will validate you. Seems like you need it.
I keep coping by telling myself its retail without Vulpera and that helps.
He said he wanted the experience of cata window licker, never said he experienced. Means he has friends or knows people that played it and shared stories with him. Man some of you people are just plain idiots.
You’re criticising Moolokka (very rudely I might add), pointing out: “…, never said he experienced. Means he has friends or knows people that played it and shared stories with him.”
Tell me, what exactly do you think the phrase: “original experience you didn’t have” means?
Do you struggle with English comprehension?
Well, you do make it difficult to disagree with you when you’ve offered yourself as a shining example. 
True dat.
Warts and all!
You do realize that they went away from the “classic” experience and it is just classic era. Cata and WoD had long content droughts and why people regard them as some of the worst expansions. You will never be able to get the same experience as someone that was playing during that time.
Apparently you have no idea what retail is like, lol.
Cata is most similar to wrath.
Stop crying, go play brainless vanilla era if you cant cut it.
Its actually awesome, best classic yet.