I am the same but its more because largely upgrades do not matter. There are what ~4 secondary stats that are pretty much all interchangeable.
If leveling up had stats like “increase run speed”, “gain more xp/specific resource”, “when outdoors chance to summon/proc something cool”, “while in zone x, if you have 3 of a specific set gain fast travel”, x ability hits an extra target or has y seconds lower cooldown (outdoors)… I would care more.
I think “leveling” in wow should be reclassified as “progressing the world” or doing anything that is not instanced content. They are really stuck on that old school RPG design and haven’t modernised it much. If instances were treated separately to “the game” are were only viewed as little gameplay modes you could go engage in, it would open up a lot of opportunities for a more entertaining game.
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That’s like saying there is sand in the Sahara or water in the Atlantic. The entire point of these forums is to opine. That’s what we are all doing here. If you don’t agree with or like what I post, then good! It takes all sorts, and not everyone should feel the same. When I play a VIDEO GAME, I am taking a break from reality, from responsibility. I already work too many hours. I don’t need another job, and I see you trying to be cute with your comments, while throwing passive aggressive jabs. “Solitaire.” Ya, let’s not go down that road, cause it’s trite and childish. There are much better and more profound means of communication.
People whining about all of this are like coming from mobile platform or something. How are you suppose to experience vast majority of WORLD of warcraft if just to finish one area of quests you need at least few hours in your life of being cAsUal™? Not to mention dungeons, scenarios and all other stuff that is relatively close to story of this game.
MMOs are games that you IMMERSE in. You shouldn’t be able to just jump in and jump out. It’s what VR and mobile casual tappitty games are for. MMOs should swallow you and don’t let go. And if you don’t have time (like I do sometimes) just don’t play it. Stop bend the game that majority of playerbase enjoy to your will, by being not as bendable yourself as others are.
I don’t feel like I personally have any right to dictate to someone how THEY should play. If someone wants to get on an hour a day and do battle pets, that’s THEIR business. I personally love the cypher system. I get to do quests for a while after work, that don’t eat up a huge chunk of time, and I’m building towards something bigger. Meanwhile, when I do get a day off, I can run dungeons for transmorgs, mounts, pets, or just play around with old content I want to fiddle with. I’m not trying to force anything on anyone. As a matter of a fact, other than the people questing in the same zone as me, I don’t even bother anyone. Now, when you FORCE someone to HAVE to group up, to gear up, that is trying to bend players to YOUR will. I hope Blizzard keeps up with systems like the cypher of the first ones, because it gives options. Options are the difference between trying to bend someone to your will and giving players a CHOICE.
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Games never been more casual friendly, it’s alt-friendly we need to work on.
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So, In a public forum about the game being unfriendly to casuals, (which I don’t believe the game really is, because you can literally earn epic gear by just doing quests), I point out that some of the community makes the game unfriendly to casuals, and that is somehow wrong? I respect your opinion, but fail to see your logic. No offense, but this isn’t something I just made up. This is an example of what people say about WOW, and while it’s by no means indicative of the player base as a whole, there is quite a bit of it that goes around.
“Much mature player base… Simply D&D is such a complex system to wrap your head around in the first place- no… Uhh… 1st grader is going to go play DDo after snack time. (i’ve grouped with my fare share of kiddies in WoW)”
Try to look past the obvious spelling and grammar errors in the quote above. The point comes across, regardless. Some players just don’t want to be forced to deal with others, and for good reason. Community standards might help in some regards, as far as interaction goes, but those standards can’t account for some players who are just total tools, and some of us would just rather avoid that entirely. I love video games, but I’m not always enamored with the online community, because for every awesome, helpful, player out there, there is a disrespectful s**thead who just wants to make life miserable for others.
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If thats the kind of MMO wow wants to be it wont push past 3 million subs again and likely will stay at 1-2 million on a downward in wants known as a “dead cat bounce” as content gets pushed out. The feedback is out most players will not go for that anymore, blizzard as a company can keep catering to the ever shrinking market or evolve.
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That’s kinda a bunk attitude. “play like I do, or don’t play.” Then you want to talk about being “bendable.” That whole comment seems like an oxymoron, if not a little hypocritical. “not everyone wants to conform, but everyone should conform, but only to the concept of the game that I personally adhere to.”
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Getting to 1400 is deceptively easy, even in pve gear. You straight up wont even lose rating for 90% of matches until you get to 1200 in 2s, 1500ish in 3s, and 1400ish in RBG
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1 hour a day really isnt going to cut it. In some cases you cant even sit in a queue for a dungeon and complete it in an hour. Its better if you can dedicate a few hours 2-3 days per week than only 1 hour per day. It also depends on the content you want to be doing too. World and story content can pretty much be done at your leisure, but you’ll have to dedicate a little more time and effort if you want to raid, rank pvp, or m+.
When I started back, a few months ago, I had to start a new account. I played from first level and saved my free level fifty upgrade. I keep hearing horror stories about how alt unfriendly things have been. I finally used my free fifty yesterday and made an alt, but ONLY because my wife wanted a character to play around with. I don’t see myself making any more.
1 hr a day is more than enough. That’s 7 hours a week. In weeks 1-2, you level a gnome to 60. Week 3, you do the questlines and get your legendaries. Week 4, you do 10 dungeons and get up to M+20 or so. Week 5, you have a good vault and you get full tier set, so you do a few more 20s-25 for good score/KSH and the heroic raid. Week 6, you are well geared so you go to get 1600 in arena, or whatever benchmark you usually get.
Bam! You’ve won the patch in 6 weeks.
Wrong! They didn’t play Gnome so they automatically lose. As a fellow Gnome, you should have known that.
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You’re so right, I have edited my post accordingly.
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This game caters to casuals, hard, 99% of the game revolves around giving you what you want, if think the game needs to cater to you even harder, then maybe this game just isn’t for you.
If you can only play video games for 1 hour a week either make the most of it or realise this game just isn’t for you and instead you should just have a beer and shoot some zombies in call of duty instead of whining that you don’t have enough time for an mmo.
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The point of this comment was:
There is a game genre it plays like THIS.
“You” come here and start whining about THIS not fitting your personal playing style that you took from more casual environment of THAT. When people who played this game before “you” like THIS are fine with it, even though they might not follow THIS design for 100% (mythic raids, rated PvP).
I agree this game isn’t fair in a lot of senses and aspects. I hate mechanics that supposed to fix things that blizzards bragging to “fix” when it isn’t at the end. But I don’t whine about something that people enjoy and I do not that is actually a core mechanic of the genre of this game (a little hardcore), when in actuality my whine have already a solution around me (ZM and catchup mechanics), but I’m too whiny and lazy to look it up.
Also, people started to whine about all this “cAsuAl™” stuff are weird: they demand things being given to them for just logging into game and spending some time doing turtle WQs, when other people spend WEEKS or MONTHS (like me) to get their BIS from random vault proc of 8 18+ mythics. Or raiding heroics/mythics for BIS trinkets.
More of a “Mythic+ or die”, but I agree.
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Kyrian mail set, BFA warfront mail sets, and the Legion EN and NH set are pretty good, but I agree, hunter sets tend to look like trash.
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Then petition a developer to allow you to just log into the game with your preferred character, open the in game mailbox, and receive everything that you wanted. Now, you can dedicate your precious time to something that you really enjoy.
They should make it so that every boss in M+ drops loot. Alts would rejoice, casuals would rejoice, hardcores would rejoice.