Casual players and soloers shouldn't be able to progress

Casual =/= can’t or won’t do hard content. There’s plenty of casual raiders out there. They just don’t put the same amount of time into it that “hardcore” players do.

I get what you’re saying though, people should be rewarded relative to the content they do. Casual, solo, hardcore, elite, w/e has nothing to do with it. If you do the content you should get the rewards. No reason to be a jackwagon to get that point across.

Well said.

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OP…why does players like me having 400 gear offend you? Or those like you, they can jump in to.

We just hop in, have our fun…leave.

We don’t ruin your dungeon key runs…we don’t push mythic +. Or if we do we pug it.

We don’t ruin your mythic raids…we don’t raid. Or we pug heroic.

And tbh if this game didn’t do ilevel scaling we’d not need the “gimme gear”. I don’t shoot for 400 to show I am the man.

I do it to break the ilevel scales and enjoy my character. 370-400 and normal open world content goes smoother. Something one tends to want when they have a champoion who has in theory faced the lich king, big bad dragon, Sargeras, etc.

A deer or crab should not have me go damn…you put up a better fight than a f’ing demon. I’ve had a few chars do BFA past 1.5 months. 116-120 still “fun” (scaling in full effect now). POp the AOE swipe of the feral druid now 117, piss off 3 wildlife and go dammit, this is gonna drag now.

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You mean what they’ve been doing since WoD? Lol.

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I too have quit raiding and M+. I also have a lot of alts. I was curios how many you have but it won’t show. Just curious if I have an alt problem.

i have 14 max level toons i think. no mage at cap though. every other class. 2 warlocks, 2 pallies, 2 shaman.

how many do you have at cap?

It will be easier this way. I have 2 full stormreaver realms. My main has 16 max levels, the other has 10 and 2 more close. I have 15 max on aerie peak and 1 leveling. Working on 11 more on dalaran. 2 already max. Plus a few other 110’s. I think that covers them.

I like to be in my guilds at least my Horde and Classic ones been playing with that group of people since Draenor. As for me not being around much to play with them well that’s a real life issue.

When did Sunday come in the middle of the week?

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This whole “casuals are more equipped than high end raiders” is a BS HOAX

Show me a relevant number of people who never set foot at any raiding or M+ and has 430+ ILVL.
Unless you are talking about Normal raiding which is casual and not at all high end raiding

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But in your example if you go from 340 to 415, his 445 is still going to get picked. His guild wont kick him for you, and you’ll still crush him in PvP.
As of today I can get level 1 gear, and WF/TF/catchups/Benthic (your scads of free gear) will slowly allow me to get level 2 gear, allowing me to complete content faster. SCO will always have level 3.
Under your system (no free gear) I will be stuck at level 1. How does that make it better for scrubs like me??

Right now I have these:

LvL 120: Mage, Paladin, 2x Priests (horde and alliance)
LvL 115: Warrior
LvL 111: Warrior, Shaman
LvL 110: Paladin
LvL 100+: Druid, Demon Hunter
I have random alts lvl 20-102 as well: Hunter, Shaman, Druid, DK, Warlock, Rogue, Monk.

I’m not super crazy, but I just can’t find what I like. I was a Priest from day 1 of playing WoW up until WarLords of Draenor. WoD was so bad it made me start investing in Alts and doing other stuff. I’ve mained a Mage since end of WoD up until now, but really just play casual and still use alts a lot.

No offense but I honestly didn’t read your post, the title itself explains it’s either a troll bait or just a cretin person behind it.

Solo players should be able to achieve a fair amount of progress, just not the highest available ingame. As for casuals, you can be casual and still have very respectable pve progress or even the highest pvp titles, if you’re talented enough.

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Back in the day there was an active extreme soloing scene in this game. Accomplished raiders in top guilds would solo in their off-time just for the challenge. And there were even some who raided at the highest level of the game only to acquire gear for soloing. Some of the most-loved content in this game like the Warlock Green Fire quest line and the Mage Tower were introduced as a way to give everyone this opportunity.
Soloing was a big part of why I used to play and enjoy WoW.

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I have been told the traits on the raid/dungeon stuff is better too. I won’t lie, on my gimme gear I don’t think too hard on the traits.

Most are meh, I don’t need max dps for my needs soo I don’t burn 20 hours running sims, researching icy veins and wowhead and their sim analyses.

Hell on many pieces I go both traits on this ring suck, pick least bad one.

Should go play Classic. The game is set up with exactly what you want, with its lack of WF/TF, LFR, LFD, post-60 solo progression, etc.

I’ve seen a lot of people clamoring for something like this, to the point that if Blizzcon doesn’t include an announcement of something along those lines for 9.0, I really won’t have any faith in it.

I have many that mostly make sky golem mats, 1 realm with vial of sands, working on 2nd. want to level the dalaran toons at least over 100. To farm grumpus mounts this year. I also multibox for mats. Plus farming old raid mounts/pets and weekly world bosses goes faster with a lot of alts. I’m not wow rich (yet) but someday maybe. I never pay for subs on my 4 accounts at least.

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Hmmm, I wonder how games survive when they just cater to the hardcore tryhards :blush: #ripwildstar

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