Capstone Replacement idea for Artic Assault

I think Artic Assault causes more problems then it helps. It’s cause Glacial Advance to be over nerfed even when it doesn’t get casted. Its put more AOE on out single target builder making it harder to buff for single target. It robs some of our AOE DPS budget from being able to go into our actual AOE abilities like Remorseless winter. Last it makes the razor ice rune forge even more irrelevant.

The Idea of that capstone is basically the same as our VERY underpowered talent point Inexorable Assault. Cram more power in the KM global caused by Obliteration.

My idea for a replacement is a talent talent that fits the line better and a true successor to the Obliteration talent before it. It also solves the whole building crit for a proc that doesn’t used that crit you stack issue.

TOTAL OBLITERATION - Obliterate deals bonus damage equal to your crit percentage and KM procs deal bonus damage equal to 50% of your crit chance. Making the stat we stack the most of not useless for our bread and butter ability.

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Sooo… you don’t like the idea of both Runes and Runic Power (albeit RP is free but you still get Unending Frenzy and Icy Talon stack) being spent on a single global?

Also, why do you make new topic all the time? So many of them are made by you.

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What are you even on about? The only nerf that glacial advance got was the proc itself. The ability itself got absolutely no nerf or buff.

Arctic assault is completely fine.

As for your actual idea about crit scaling though, that’s not bad. But it’s not like crit scales badly for frost.

If they were to bring back dynamic icecap which would increase the value of haste and decrease that of crit though, then it would become very useful to have crit damage scaling on obliterate.

Its been nerfed like 3 times since pre patch while never being casted. They finally realized they should nerf AS instead but haven’t buffed GA back to competing with shatter frost.

Even if it was which i don’t remember, how is this an inherent issue with assault instead of just the developers balancing incorrectly? Yes exactly.

The balancing of aa and glacial are independent of each other, because blizzard can balance them separately, therefore, if GA was nerfed it’s not because of aa, but rather because blizzard nerfed the wrong ability.

And even if they did, so what? You gained more AOE thanks to assault so they nerf the overall kit in order to be relatively at the same level as before, except you have more stuff to play with, i see this as a gain, not a loss.

Also aa procs talons and makes your obliterate deal AOE damage, instead of relying only on the cleave and gathering storms while spending runes, it also procs razorice making it easier to shatter frost strike, so I just do not see why anyone would complain about this. It’s just complaining for the sake of it. This argument doesn’t stand on its own regardless of the angle.

End of story.

My account was hit with the bug so i couldn’t post for weeks… i had a back log lol…

It was nerfed several times. It went from a 2+ target priority ability to barely 3+ target and with the recent patch Arctic Assault itself was nerfed by a further 20%.

And It doesn’t matter.

Ultimately the overall AOE of frost is still better. And you have more options.

Frost is not lacking in 2 to 3 target cleave.

Also, I went back to look at the pre Patch notes and found: Glacial Advance damage increased by 23%.

I found a single 15% nerf in the 11.0.2 patch which is not that big of a deal.

And as I said before, even if it was there is still no good justification to remove this talent, it’s just complaining for the sake of it.

These damage redistributions are irrelevant, what matters is how the spec plays, how the new talents impact gameplay whether negatively or positively, and the overall damage. The rest is irrelevant.

Assault allows you to keep up stacks of talons without ever dropping them, and it gives obliterate km a way to deal damage over 3 targets, in other words it makes your AOE rune dps less dependent on gathering storms while still not overshadowing it.

There is literally no reason to complain about this.

I won’t return to frost until they take some of the boring, passive garbage out and give it another active ability to weave. The spec is just boring compared to both blood and uh.