Blizz, every time I logged in, you gave me a popup rushing me to spend my profession knowledge…
And so I did.
Is there really no way to refund this now that I did some research and am actually ready to make an informed decision?
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Sorry there is NO way to reset. Even if you unlearn and restart it goes back to the same talents.
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If there isn’t, then one needs to be added. I did the same thing since the game was spamming me with popups. I mean, I read them but I still don’t know enough about what’s needed or good for what I want to do to know if what I chose was what I really should have or not. If I can’t change it after hitting level cap and settling in, I’m going to be pretty miffed.
Anyone have any insight on this?
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Read the specializations carefully before assigning the points. I didn’t know they couldn’t be refunded until now, that really needs changing, but I have a clear idea of what I want my main to specialize in, and I find the new specialization interesting so far. So far . . .
Semper Fi! 
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I don’t see this being added since it would allow crafters to specialize in one thing, make that gear, and then just respec all their points into the next type of item they want to make. Now I don’t really see that as a problem since epic gear is so gated by mats anyway, but clearly bliz doesn’t want peoole do that.
I guess the upside is you can just get more points and put them where you want them now. You’ll get everything eventually.
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I mean, by that logic we shouldnt be allowed to change our class talents or spec talents either.
They should free it up, especially if people make mistakes with their choices early.
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Its different logic because you can’t get all your talent points filled in eventually.
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If you could respec on the fly, it would allow you to grab whatever the most lucrative work orders were in the AH with the perfect build for the craft to maximize chances at best result. It would constantly require min/maxing.
I don’t think it’s a great idea just because I’d how they built this system.
A middle ground would be if you go deep enough into a tree to learn a sub spec, you can only refund points in that sub spec. Or let us refund the last 5 points or something.
I also screwed up some points when I was building out my stuff because I didn’t know and the online guides weren’t super specific.
You will eventually be able to fully unlock the trees though, so that’s nice. Also there is an NPC in valdraken that you can buy items from that give a bunch of knowledge points that are unlocked by rep tiers. Don’t spend those until you are sure what you want to do.
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So I should have to suffer for 1 month, 2 months, 6 months, or more because i didnt realize day 1 the recipe to make an item i wanted was in another talent tree?
Sure eventually everyone will have it maxxed. Everyone plays at different rates and we shouldn’t be punished for early mistakes.
Let people respec their professions specializations.
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Is it also a slap in the face?
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Not having a reset is dumb, especially with how long it will take to earn all of them .
Imagine if class talent trees where like ??Yeah fun detected again
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damn if theres no way to respec it it should be a lot more forward about it.
have an all caps popup “THIS WILL BE IRREVERSIBLE! ARE YOU SURE?!” or whatever.
unchangeable things should be taken seriously and the ui should let you know about it.
thankfully i got it the way i want so far but still…
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I guess if we’re going to get them all anyway, it’s not the end of the world…
I just hate that blizz kept giving me a popup like i had to pick something and eventually I just went in, spent them because I was sick of seeing the popup. I should have spent more time researching it before I did…but I didn’t ever assume it was a permanent spending of the point.
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This is a fair point, but if everyone has all talents unlocked anyway that will happen regardless. Whats the difference if someone swaps talents to try and get it?
Even if its a 1 time thing or requires an item you need to work with other proffessions to make, there should be something to let people respec.
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They are not even close to being the same thing. If you could change your crafting specialization at will, it would become pointless. As the second you needed to be better at something, you would just respec into it. They system is intended so we are not able to master the entire trade skill but instead focus upon becoming an expert in one aspect of it.
Now that said, I do think they could add a reset but it would have to be on a long cool down to balance it.
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Literally that same thing can be said about specialization talents.
“If you could change your specialization on the fly, it would become pointless. As the second you needed to be better at something, you would respec into it. The system is intended so we are not able to master our entire specialization from the start, but instead focus upon becoming an expert in one aspec of it.”
The only difference is that ultimately you do not unlock the entire specialization tree over time, where as professions we eventually do. But that is going to take who knows how long.
Imagine not being able to change your specialization talents until level 70. That early mistake you made is stuck with you for a good chunk of your characters early gameplay.
This would be ok with me. As long as there is something. A cooldown, a required item, a gold cost (like old talents), etc…
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Well the other purpose is to further differentiate the player base. Wow only has a handful of professions and we all get 2. By funneling people into specialization you further segment the market participants for a given item.
Legendary crafting did this to an extent too.
So if plate head pieces are just the absolute jam on your server, either you get to control a good chunk of that market or everyone sees that helm drops late in the raid tier and you have a bunch of competition.
Vault gives us some randomness on which pieces have demand.
Work orders allow us to control our mat outflow a little better, which I personally like. No more crafting a piece and having it sit on AH for 1-2 months with no bites and being out big mat costs.
That being said, tier slots immediately push down the value of major slot pieces when crafting. So those 5 slots aren’t carrying any premiums. Weapons are going to be in demand though.
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Not even close to the same thing, people need to understand that just because an apple grows on a tree that doesn’t mean it is an orange.
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How are you suffering? You are getting the benefit of whatever talent you picked. You also were under no obligation to spend the points in the first place until ready. That’s what I did.
Be more like me.
He’s suffering because now he’s behind the crafting min/max crowd that understood the system. The system does a horrible job of teaching you how to efficiently spend points.
The illusion of choice puts you at a 1-2 month long disadvantage to focused builds while you play catch up with expedition packs and daily quests for crafting points.
Skinning is a great example. Early movers on the extra mob specific drop tree made 100-200k extra in the first 3-4 days of release than those of us who didn’t spec correctly or play. That tree is going to be garbage tier in a month until we get the next zone with hopefully zone specific drops.
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